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    I appreciate our government's involvement in marriage, straight and gay. There are perks and some disadvantages, but it's a level playing field.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ftmom View Post
    Please understand that I have absolutely no problems with the government being involved in my marriage, I am just trying to understand the position of being married and against it. Thinking back on when I was getting married, I didn't really THINK about what filing those papers would mean. We were already common law, so we filed taxes together, we are Canadian so medical didn't really change (no extra insurance at the time), and he can already take time off if I have his baby. Honestly, the only big change it made in our immediate lives was me having to change my name on everything....and we didn't even have to do that.

    Yes, many of those other things have crept into our lives as time went on, we now have kids together, bought a house, etc. But I can see when people are young and getting married it not entering into their thoughts what those papers actually mean. It was just part of the process of getting married to us...and we were 25 at the time. I have absolutely no recollection of this being addressed in high school socials, and didn't take economics, so I really had no concept of what it really meant.
    I agree 100%, and I got married in my 30s. Taxes, finances, insurance, laws, none of those things entered my mind. And I never studied economics in my life. I simply wanted to be married, to make Dave my husband and to be his wife. I was all about the romantic, love, union-for-life forever and after part of it.

    At no time in my academic life did this topic ever come up. (I also grew up in Canada, but got married here in the U.S.)
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    I see it like this -
    As Christians we are to obey the law of the land.. unless it is against our religious beliefs.. at that point we must choose.

    It is not against my religious beliefs for my marriage to be registered with the state.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rivergallery View Post
    I see it like this -
    As Christians we are to obey the law of the land.. unless it is against our religious beliefs.. at that point we must choose.

    It is not against my religious beliefs for my marriage to be registered with the state.
    But the state doesn't require that you get married. So if you believe that the government shouldn't be involved in marriage, why are you legally married?
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    The state doesn't require that you register your marriage. If you wed before God in your church as it was done for thousands of years you would have considered yourself married, right?

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    The state will automatically register your marriage... Common law marriages...
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    Quote Originally Posted by freddieflounder101 View Post
    But the state doesn't require that you get married. So if you believe that the government shouldn't be involved in marriage, why are you legally married?
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    Politically I do not think government should be involved in marriage.
    Religiously I will do what the government says until it violates my religion... same reason I register to homeschool We are legally required to at 7yo in our state.. it isn't against my religion to register.. or to prove I am schooling them.. so I will continue. Though politically I will continue to fight for less restrictions on homeschoolers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rivergallery View Post
    The state will automatically register your marriage... Common law marriages...
    Most states don't recognize common law marriages.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rivergallery View Post
    The state will automatically register your marriage... Common law marriages...
    That is totally not true.

    Common-law marriage in the United States - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    Do you really think that the "state" is out there keeping tabs on who is living with who and for how long? Nyet. Its not even recognized in your state as a real thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rivergallery View Post
    Also -
    Politically I do not think government should be involved in marriage.
    Religiously I will do what the government says until it violates my religion... same reason I register to homeschool We are legally required to at 7yo in our state.. it isn't against my religion to register.. or to prove I am schooling them.. so I will continue. Though politically I will continue to fight for less restrictions on homeschoolers.
    Yes, for homeschooling you are legally required to register.

    For marriage you are not. Common law you are not. You can live with someone and have children and never be married, or only be married by a religious organization and not have the government involved. There is no reason on earth to involve the government if you don't believe it belongs there, there is nothing requiring you to do so. In fact, it took EFFORT for you to do so.

    The government does not say you have to get married or register your partnership in any way.

    There are many things not against your religion that you don't do, why isn't this just another one of those?
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