I was not saying that my marriage would not matter. I was saying I would not be making some big political statement because no one cares what I think about marriage. I remember Angelina Jolie coming out and saying she would not get married until everyone had the same legal right to get married. Her saying that did not change things but it drew attention to the issue. An ordinary person saying the same thing (in reverse) would not have the same reaction. No one would care.
To use the same illustration, they might have guns for protection because everyone else does, but would not feel that was necessary if no one had guns.
To be honest, none of our school paperwork ever involved our marriage certificate. So you could do everything as you do now, without the government....isn't that your dream scenario?
I get not wanting a divorce, but if you had it to do RIGHT NOW, why would you still choose government marriage when you don't need it?
I continue to think that you do want it, for the same reason the rest of us want it, for the same reason gay people want it.
If you (collective you who are arguing for keeping the government out of marriage) truly thought this was the right way to do things, why not just do it? Why TAKE IT AWAY from the rest of us? We don't want it taken away, and gay people want it, so in what logical world is taking it away the right solution? It doesn't solve ANY of the problems except yours, and only yours, which is that you don't want gay people to get married for some reason I still don't really understand, as it doesn't actually affect you in any way or hurt anybody.
I fantasize about a world without guns because guns can easily be used to hurt more than just the owners of guns. I can't see how the same is true of other people's marriages.
Another way the analogy does not fit is that I also choose not to have a gun or allow guns in my home. I would think it would be very strange of me to say that I wish no one was allowed to have guns, while being a gun owner myself.
Who has a MEAN fairy land? This is a bizarre debate. For real.
still would like an answer on how you get legal things done with no government in marriage. Anyone?
I think most people (even people that own guns), would say they wish there was no need for guns and in their ideal situation there would not be a need for guns. They might however feel that as long as there is a need for guns, that they need to have one.
(I do not own a gun, nor do I have a desire to own a gun. This is just for illustration purposes.)
Bonita, not trying to hound you to be a jerk, I just truly do not understand.You wish there was no need for a government marriage? I mean, you can say that there isn't a true need for it, but I certainly get that there are a lot of rights and whatnot that you forgo when you forgo the government marriage which is why people are fighting so hard to have it. So yeah, there is a "need" for it - but then if you got rid of the government marriage, how would you get those right otherwise? Like we talked about the need for a marriage for an easy name change. But how would the government be able to track who is married to who and allow the easy name change if you didn't register it with them somehow? Ditto for every right that you currently enjoy with your marriage.