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    Quote Originally Posted by Rivergallery View Post
    Why should a single person have to get married to bestow those rights/responsibilities onto someone else?

    Potter was saying that Christians are not against people living together.
    Because you can already do that. None of the "benefits" you speak of is the reason I got married or would have stopped me from being married if it didn't exist.
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    Sorry....my God is okay with those things. We're just more concerned with helping others and leaving the world a better place...too busy to condemn those who *gasp* get divorced or have sex before marriage.
    Last edited by mommydearest; 07-08-2013 at 11:02 PM. Reason: meant to type divorced instead of married
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rivergallery View Post
    Does any Christian actually think Witchcraft, Divorce or Premarital Sex are just fine and dandy with God?
    The word Christian is going to mean different things to different people. While I agree with you that it would be best for the Government to stay out of marriage, I do not think it will work to use what God would want as a reason.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jessica80 View Post
    Yes actually I don't think that God really gives a crap about any of those 3.
    Ummm so.. no to the 10 commandments then... means you are a Christian.. got it.
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    I hate when this debate breaks down into "who is the right kind of Christian?" From the outside looking in, all the dissension even from WITHIN the Christian religion is yet another reason not to make laws based solely on religion. Not only do non-Christians possibly disagree, but even the Christians themselves disagree. It seems more fair to leave everyone to their own conscience and understanding of a higher power when we're talking about purely religious rules.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rivergallery View Post

    Potter was saying that Christians are not against people living together.
    What? Potter was not saying that Rachel? Yikes on the comprehension. I refuse to engage with you as long as you refuse to address me by my name, however.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alissa_Sal View Post
    I hate when this debate breaks down into "who is the right kind of Christian?" From the outside looking in, all the dissension even from WITHIN the Christian religion is yet another reason not to make laws based solely on religion. Not only do non-Christians possibly disagree, but even the Christians themselves disagree. It seems more fair to leave everyone to their own conscience and understanding of a higher power when we're talking about purely religious rules.
    Isnt it ridiculous? It's embarrassing for them. And sorry- but I've seen so much far right intolerance on this board towards gays, minorities, the poor, drug users, prostitutes, rape victims, immigrants etc......that to now be sold this story that conservatives don't hate GAYS---- they are just deeply troubled about the discrimination against SINGLE people! You know- the heavily beleaguered early 20's crew out partying on mommy and daddies health insurance and dating and having fun without a ton of responsibilities- THOSE are the real victims in our country.

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    Yeah I'm not debating my spirituality with anyone today.
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    I agree. That's why I object so strongly when people claim my (our) issue is with Christians, or Christians aren't being taken into account, etc. It's not "Christians". Lots of Christians support gay marriage AND love Jesus at the same time! It's amazing!

    And this new thing about single people? Come on. This is the class you feel needs protection to the point that you want to take away MY right to a government marriage as well as prevent gay people from having it?

    None of it makes any sense. If there was a more coherent theory of what is meant by this, I'd buy it, but you could totally change the laws (oh no! changing things!) to give people the right to declare a next of kin easily (although I bet it would create HUGE backlogs in the courts as people fight it when things don't go well) and none of that would have to interfere with gay people getting married OR my own government-approved marriage.

    I'm not trying to take away your church marriage. You can keep it. You can even keep gay people out of it if that's what your particular denomination is into.

    So how are things better without the government in marriage again? What would improve, exactly? Just that you wouldn't have to hear about the gays wanting marriage too? Is that the thing you want to get rid of that makes you so willing to throw out the rest of it that actually helps society?
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    Along these lines, this was a thought-provoking blog post for me, as a Christian. I think she raises some good points about the inconsistencies that make others see many Christians as hypocritical.

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