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    Quote Originally Posted by ethanwinfield View Post

    It just seems so bizarre to me that all of the other states will recognize a 5th marriage between one man and one woman and a marriage between a 51 year old man and a 16 year old teen who married in NV with parental consent. TX will recognize this as a valid marriage but not Neil Patrick Harris' or Ellen's marriages.


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    And to quote Gloria, "Thank God I live in Texas". *shiver*
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    Quote Originally Posted by freddieflounder101 View Post
    Don't you think it's odd that we don't recognize legal marriages that happen within our own country?
    I am not saying that CA marriages should not be recognized nationally. I am saying you can not say well China would do it, so Texes should.
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    It wouldn't bother you if 10 states allowed homeschooling and 40 didn't? So your girls HS degrees were recognized in 10 states but not the other 40, and they couldn't have the right to go to college in 40 states or find gainful employment in 40 states? You wouldn't find that odd or unfair? Would you still be going on about states rights then?
    States already do not recognize homeschool diplomas. Most places do not. You either have to get a GED, or go based on your SAT or ACT scores. Homeschooling laws already vary greatly by State. If you are homeschooled in one State in say 9th grade and then moved to another State, I believe you would either have to take a placement test or for high school start over in 9th grade. I know two private schooled students that went to an unaccredited private school for 9th grade and then wanted to transfer to public school for 10th grade. Because those credits were not accredited they had to start over at 9th grade.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AlyssaEimers View Post
    I am not saying that CA marriages should not be recognized nationally. I am saying you can not say well China would do it, so Texes should.
    The point isn't that we should do what China does. I think you're getting hung up on one facet of the argument and missing the larger point.

    Can you explain to me how it makes logical good sense to have legal marriage that isn't recognized everywhere within one country? Forget the China part.
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    Bonita you are again missing the point. Say their GED's were not accepted in 40 states simply because they had been homeschooled. Would that make sense? Would it make sense that they met the criteria and were precluded from going to college in 40 states simply because of a bias against homeschooling even though their degree was as valid as anyone else's?

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    Quote Originally Posted by AlyssaEimers View Post
    Not in the least. I am saying you can't say Texes should recognize someone's marriage because China would. That is what is crazy.
    No, it's not about what China would recognize. Forget what China would recognize. It's about what Texas would recognize. Texas would recognize a marriage from China. Texas would not recognize a marriage from MA, USA. That is the weird part.
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    To be honest, I do not really care who someone has sex with as long as they do not do it in front of me. I do not really care either who someone chooses to marry. I do however, think Texas should be able to make their own laws.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AlyssaEimers View Post
    To be honest, I do not really care who someone has sex with as long as they do not do it in front of me. I do not really care either who someone chooses to marry. I do however, think Texas should be able to make their own laws.
    I also don't want people have sex in front of me. I think that's a reasonable request.

    So you think that Texas should be able to not recognize legal marriage that happens in America? In a country, it's okay to have legal marriage not recognized within its borders? That makes sense?
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    Quote Originally Posted by freddieflounder101 View Post

    So you think that Texas should be able to not recognize legal marriage that happens in America? In a country, it's okay to have legal marriage not recognized within its borders? That makes sense?
    I do not know what the answer to that is, but I do think that Texas should be able to have laws that reflect their values.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AlyssaEimers View Post
    I do not know what the answer to that is, but I do think that Texas should be able to have laws that reflect their values.
    Even discriminatory values?

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    Quote Originally Posted by AlyssaEimers View Post
    To be honest, I do not really care who someone has sex with as long as they do not do it in front of me. I do not really care either who someone chooses to marry. I do however, think Texas should be able to make their own laws.
    Texas CAN and DOES make their own laws. But just like other states must recognize and validate TX laws even when they don't agree with them, so should TX.

    Let's say in TX possession of 1 gram of pot is a felony carrying a penalty of up to 10 years in prison. A TX resident is arrested, released on bail, and while awaiting trial, flees to WA. In WA, it's not even a crime. But...the person is pulled over for speeding and the cops find a felony warrant in TX for the pot charge. The cops call TX and they say to extradite the criminal. WA can't say no because they choose not to have the same laws as TX - if TX wants him, TX gets him.

    Do you think no state should have to recognize what goes on in TX as one of the 50 states?

    Degree from TX A&M? Yeah, that's nice but you're in OK now, you'll have to start all over. Law school at Harvard? Yeah, your undergraduate degree is from TX so start all over or never leave TX.

    Driver's license from TX? Nope, sorry can't drive in NM.

    Started school in TX? Too bad, your child has to go back to kindergarten because we don't regonize public schools in TX.

    Got married in TX? Well, you're suddenly single when you go to LA. Got married in NV but divorced in TX? Nope. Still married by NV's terms.

    CS order issued in TX? Oh well, the NCP moved to NM so she/he no longer has to give you any money and their ain't nothing you can do about it.

    Protection order issued in TX and you vacation in AR? Sucks to be you if your stalker follows you. AR isn't going to help you until you get to court in AR - better plan your vacation around your trip to the courthouse.

    It's not that TX wants to make their own laws; it's that they want to ignore the rest of the states' rights to do so.

    If Texans want to live in a bubble that's fine. But you can't expect other states to recognize your laws - even the ones we don't agree with - if you aren't going to recognize the laws of other states.

    Funny thing though:
    The very reason there was a need for DOMA in the first place was so states didn't have to recognize a valid marriage from another state. Were it not for DOMA all states would have to recognize a same sex marriage from a different state.

    (As for the three states that don't recognize marriages of 1st cousins performed in other states, it has not been challenged at the federal level but it probably wouldn't hold up to a legal challenge.)

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