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End of Times

We were discussing this in my Sunday school class this week and I thought it might make an interesting debate topic. Here is Jesus' description of the end of times:

Matthew 24
1 Jesus left the temple and was walking away when his disciples came up to him to call his attention to its buildings. 2 “Do you see all these things?” he asked. “Truly I tell you, not one stone here will be left on another; every one will be thrown down.”
3 As Jesus was sitting on the Mount of Olives, the disciples came to him privately. “Tell us,” they said, “when will this happen, and what will be the sign of your coming and of the end of the age?”

4 Jesus answered: “Watch out that no one deceives you. 5 For many will come in my name, claiming, ‘I am the Messiah,’ and will deceive many. 6 You will hear of wars and rumors of wars, but see to it that you are not alarmed. Such things must happen, but the end is still to come. 7 Nation will rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom. There will be famines and earthquakes in various places. 8 All these are the beginning of birth pains.

9 “Then you will be handed over to be persecuted and put to death, and you will be hated by all nations because of me. 10 At that time many will turn away from the faith and will betray and hate each other, 11 and many false prophets will appear and deceive many people. 12 Because of the increase of wickedness, the love of most will grow cold, 13 but the one who stands firm to the end will be saved. 14 And this gospel of the kingdom will be preached in the whole world as a testimony to all nations, and then the end will come.

15 “So when you see standing in the holy place ‘the abomination that causes desolation,’ spoken of through the prophet Daniel—let the reader understand— 16 then let those who are in Judea flee to the mountains. 17 Let no one on the housetop go down to take anything out of the house. 18 Let no one in the field go back to get their cloak. 19 How dreadful it will be in those days for pregnant women and nursing mothers! 20 Pray that your flight will not take place in winter or on the Sabbath. 21 For then there will be great distress, unequaled from the beginning of the world until now—and never to be equaled again.

22 “If those days had not been cut short, no one would survive, but for the sake of the elect those days will be shortened. 23 At that time if anyone says to you, ‘Look, here is the Messiah!’ or, ‘There he is!’ do not believe it. 24 For false messiahs and false prophets will appear and perform great signs and wonders to deceive, if possible, even the elect. 25 See, I have told you ahead of time.

26 “So if anyone tells you, ‘There he is, out in the wilderness,’ do not go out; or, ‘Here he is, in the inner rooms,’ do not believe it. 27 For as lightning that comes from the east is visible even in the west, so will be the coming of the Son of Man. 28 Wherever there is a carcass, there the vultures will gather.

29 “Immediately after the distress of those days

“‘the sun will be darkened,
and the moon will not give its light;
the stars will fall from the sky,
and the heavenly bodies will be shaken.’

30 “Then will appear the sign of the Son of Man in heaven. And then all the peoples of the earth will mourn when they see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of heaven, with power and great glory. 31 And he will send his angels with a loud trumpet call, and they will gather his elect from the four winds, from one end of the heavens to the other.

32 “Now learn this lesson from the fig tree: As soon as its twigs get tender and its leaves come out, you know that summer is near. 33 Even so, when you see all these things, you know that it is near, right at the door. 34 Truly I tell you, this generation will certainly not pass away until all these things have happened. 35 Heaven and earth will pass away, but my words will never pass away.

36 “But about that day or hour no one knows, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father. 37 As it was in the days of Noah, so it will be at the coming of the Son of Man. 38 For in the days before the flood, people were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, up to the day Noah entered the ark; 39 and they knew nothing about what would happen until the flood came and took them all away. That is how it will be at the coming of the Son of Man. 40 Two men will be in the field; one will be taken and the other left. 41 Two women will be grinding with a hand mill; one will be taken and the other left.
42 “Therefore keep watch, because you do not know on what day your Lord will come. 43 But understand this: If the owner of the house had known at what time of night the thief was coming, he would have kept watch and would not have let his house be broken into. 44 So you also must be ready, because the Son of Man will come at an hour when you do not expect him.

45 “Who then is the faithful and wise servant, whom the master has put in charge of the servants in his household to give them their food at the proper time? 46 It will be good for that servant whose master finds him doing so when he returns. 47 Truly I tell you, he will put him in charge of all his possessions. 48 But suppose that servant is wicked and says to himself, ‘My master is staying away a long time,’ 49 and he then begins to beat his fellow servants and to eat and drink with drunkards. 50 The master of that servant will come on a day when he does not expect him and at an hour he is not aware of. 51 He will cut him to pieces and assign him a place with the hypocrites, where there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.

A couple people in class put up a couple different theories:
1) That the end will come when the whole world has been given over again to evil as in the days of Noah and so at that point God will destroy the earth one final time. (vs 37)

2) The end will come after the word of God has reached everyone on the earth (vs 14)

Of course there are other theories, one that the world will end May 21, 2011
http://www.breakingnewsonline.net/features/6145-bracing-for-doomsday-on-may-21-2011.html

And of course there is the Mayan Calendar thing.
http://viewzone2.com/endtimex.html

So what is your theory about when the end of the world will come?

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I don't like to speculate on it that much other than to say that we have more reason to believe that it will happen in our lifetime than any other. I do think we are still here primarily because God is giving people more time, for sure.

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My theory is that it will come. It doesn't matter when or how. It doesn't affect how I live my life since the bible is pretty explicitly clear on how I am to spend my time and on the fruitlessness on anxiety for a believer (Psalm 91, John 14:27, 2 Tim 1:7, etc etc). Intellectually I find end times study and chronology (Daniel 9 makes for a fascinating supplement to the passage you supplied, as well as Revelation) to be interesting, but I since I am called to live every day for Christ I hardly have anything to fear from the end of the age. I just keep focusing on what I can do today and tomorrow will take care of itself.

The end is near, it is always near in God's time. What's a few millennia compared to eternity? Whether it is tomorrow or ten thousand tomorrows away, it doesn't affect anything about my life Smile

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"SaucyVidel" wrote:

The end is near, it is always near in God's time. What's a few millennia compared to eternity? Whether it is tomorrow or ten thousand tomorrows away, it doesn't affect anything about my life Smile

I agree with you it doesn't really matter, we could die today. I'm just kind of curious when all the doomsday stuff comes up with this May date all the 2012 stuff what other people believe.

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When will the Sun die? That is hard to determine exactly, but it will be around five to seven billion years from now. Long after the current population of the Earth has passed away the Sun will consume the last of its hydrogen. The Sun will then become a red giant and expand to beyond the orbit of the Earth. It will then spend the last 10% of its energy before exploding and completely disappearing as we know it.

http://www.universetoday.com/53976/when-will-the-sun-die/

Of course, that is only stating the end of the earth as a habitable planet. Humans (as we know them) almost certainly won't be around 5 billion years anyway.

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[INDENT]I have so many questions about the My 21st theory that you posted, Gloria. It sounds like the ravings of a lunatic to me, but maybe I just don't know enough about the numbers in the bible?

Camping came up to the conclusion with a mathematical formula using the numbers given in the Bible. He said, "Because I was an engineer, I was very interested in the numbers. I'd wonder, 'Why did God put this number in or that number in?' It was not a question of unbelief; it was a question of, 'There must be a reason for it.' "

Camping concluded that the number five equals "atonement" while 10 is "completeness" and 17 means "heaven." By using the date April 1, A.D. 33 as his starting point, he added 1,978 and came to April 1, 2011.

Then he multiplied 1,978 by 365.2422, the number of days in each solar year. Then, he realized that it's 51 days between April 1 and May 21 and added those to the sum of his multiplication total and got 722,500.

Then Camping realized that 722,500 equals five times 10 times 17 squared [(5*10*17)2]: Or, as he prefers, atonement times completeness times heaven squared.

Huhhhhh???? Am I the only one that doesn't get this explanation at all?
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I'm confused as to what the debate is. Do you mean when do we think that the world will end? Or do we? Or how/why?

I don't really care ~ though if it could happen in the next hour it would save me from having to cook dinner, which, at the moment, would be mucho appreciated.

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I don't personally do biblical numerology. The universe is ordered because it was created and designed. Beyond that and a few time questions relating directly to basic doctrine, I think it begins to seek its' own answers and miss the greater point.

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"Potter75" wrote:

I'm confused as to what the debate is. Do you mean when do we think that the world will end? Or do we? Or how/why?

I don't really care ~ though if it could happen in the next hour it would save me from having to cook dinner, which, at the moment, would be mucho appreciated.

Thats about it. Do you believe in any of the current theories of how/when the world will end or do you have your own theory.

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"GloriaInTX" wrote:

Thats about it. Do you believe in any of the current theories of how/when the world will end or do you have your own theory.

Other than prophecy mentioned specifically in scripture I do not.

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Ah. I don't believe in any one theory. Even amongst Christians, there is huge disagreement or ambiguity as to how Revelation is interpreted.

I honestly worry more about dinner, these days, and about making my kids into good people etc.... I admit that as a little kid hellfire and brimstone preaching used to make me cry, because I heard people who were "certain" that the end of times was very near at hand and I was really really sad because I wanted to grow up and have babies and do fun stuff.

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"Alissa_Sal" wrote:

[INDENT]I have so many questions about the My 21st theory that you posted, Gloria. It sounds like the ravings of a lunatic to me, but maybe I just don't know enough about the numbers in the bible?

Huhhhhh???? Am I the only one that doesn't get this explanation at all?
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Ya I don't really get his theory either. He has already been wrong once since he also said it was going to happen in 1994. I just posted that one as an alternate view because that date is coming up.

In his book 1994? Harold Camping states the end of the world may occur this year, somewhere between September 15-17 (p. 531). He does not know the exact day because Scripture says “no man knows the day nor the hour” (Matt. 24:36). But according to Camping we can certainly know the month and the year that Christ will return.

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I worry more about my kids running into the road.

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I don't worry about something that I already know the outcome of.

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I'm kind of bothered by the fact that people are taking advantage of the misfortunes of others in order to proselytize. Is conversion by fear a real conversion?

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I don't believe any of the 'end of times' rumours talked about here.

I think that there is potential for complete and utter destruction if/when our sun explodes, or a giant meteor knocks us out of orbit, or whatever.

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But about that day or hour no one knows, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father."
“Therefore keep watch, because you do not know on what day your Lord will come. But understand this: If the owner of the house had known at what time of night the thief was coming, he would have kept watch and would not have let his house be broken into. 44 So you also must be ready, because the Son of Man will come at an hour when you do not expect him."

My "theory" lies in the verses above. Your answers are right there, Gloria! Smile
I can't remember who taught me this, but I learned not to question it at some point growing up. I'm not saying it is in fact right or wrong, but that's just what I remember. So maybe it's not "wrong", but for me, there's no need to question the time because scripture tells us that NO one, not even the angels, or Jesus even, will know. Only God knows. So how could we, mortal men, even speculate?

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i think it's more likely humans will destroy eachother

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"SaucyVidel" wrote:

My theory is that it will come. It doesn't matter when or how. It doesn't affect how I live my life since the bible is pretty explicitly clear on how I am to spend my time and on the fruitlessness on anxiety for a believer (Psalm 91, John 14:27, 2 Tim 1:7, etc etc). Intellectually I find end times study and chronology (Daniel 9 makes for a fascinating supplement to the passage you supplied, as well as Revelation) to be interesting, but I since I am called to live every day for Christ I hardly have anything to fear from the end of the age. I just keep focusing on what I can do today and tomorrow will take care of itself.

The end is near, it is always near in God's time. What's a few millennia compared to eternity? Whether it is tomorrow or ten thousand tomorrows away, it doesn't affect anything about my life Smile

I agree with Taryl, just without the religious aspect. The end of the world or existence of Gods or how we got here on this planet as a species or all sorts of unknowable topics are interesting to me, but have no bearing on how I live my life day-to-day. My morals are my own. My laundry needs to get done. Do onto others as you'd have done to you and throw the kids in the tub. Smile

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As much as I love a good end-time prophecy (from various religions), I honestly don't think it's all so neat and tidy. I think when the end comes for us all (as a planet/people), it will be a catastrophe we are unable to prevent and/or it will come so suddenly that we won't know what hit is.

"Birthing pains" in the Earth are nothing new. Smile

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I just don't think about this. But boy, did Jesus and Paul. They wouldn't shut up about this stuff.

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I'm convinced it's the end of times and I can't point to anything/one to prove my feelings. My religion does not preach about end of times or the rapture and I never really knew about it til I became an adult. But for reasons I cannot explain, I just "know" it's the end of times. I feel it with every fiber of my being. I know that sounds insane but it's the only way to describe it. All the crazy events as of late: dead birds falling from the skies, dead animals and fish, catastrophes, earthquakes, tsunamis, etc. Something is seriously up. It's like the earth is revolting against us. I guess we'll all just have to wait and see right? :stpatricks:

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Yeah, but there are scientific explanations for all of the above. The earth isn't a stranger to cataclysmic events.

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Nope, but the increase in earthquakes is undeniable. If you look up the numbers, there are much more and increasing every year and not decreasing. Maybe the earth IS just pissed, but I can't help but think about the fact that there was a book written thousands of years ago that said this was going to happen.

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i don't think the number of earthquakes are increasing, rather then the way we record them and the technology that does so is getting better.

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"Thrice~Blessed" wrote:

Nope, but the increase in earthquakes is undeniable. If you look up the numbers, there are much more and increasing every year and not decreasing. Maybe the earth IS just pissed, but I can't help but think about the fact that there was a book written thousands of years ago that said this was going to happen.

If you look at the last 10 years, they've actually been getting less and less powerful (see the 2004 quake in Sumatra, which was a 9.1).

The press is just covering them more. Remember the "Year of the Shark"? If you listened to the press, it was a catastrophe. In fact, shark attacks were at an all time recorded low that year.

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"MsLulu" wrote:

Yeah, but there are scientific explanations for all of the above. The earth isn't a stranger to cataclysmic events.

What are the scientific reasons for the dead birds, thousands of miles apart, all falling from the sky? The prevailing theory was originally thought to be fireworks that killed them but it didn't add up. what about all the dead fish washing ashore in different areas and the dead livestock? I don't remember reading about an explanation or seeing one on TV. it's as if it didn't happen?

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"SoxyToo" wrote:

What are the scientific reasons for the dead birds, thousands of miles apart, all falling from the sky? The prevailing theory was originally thought to be fireworks that killed them but it didn't add up. what about all the dead fish washing ashore in different areas and the dead livestock? I don't remember reading about an explanation or seeing one on TV. it's as if it didn't happen?

I'm not sure about the dead birds (hadn't heard about that one), but oxygen gas becomes less soluble in water as the temperature rises. Warmer water = less O2 to going into the gills of fish = fish can't breathe = dead fish. So, global warming is responsible for some of the dead fish. Also, pollution is a major culprit.

Dead livestock? Were? In England? Wasn't that Mad Cow disease?

Different species get different epidemics and die. *Shrug*

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"MsLulu" wrote:

If you look at the last 10 years, they've actually been getting less and less powerful (see the 2004 quake in Sumatra, which was a 9.1).

The press is just covering them more. Remember the "Year of the Shark"? If you listened to the press, it was a catastrophe. In fact, shark attacks were at an all time recorded low that year.

Really? After the Japan earthquake i looked at a list of the 16 most powerful earthquakes since we started recording them. 5 of them have been in the last decade. Unless the lists are wrong..i don't see evidence that they are getting weaker.

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"SoxyToo" wrote:

What are the scientific reasons for the dead birds, thousands of miles apart, all falling from the sky? The prevailing theory was originally thought to be fireworks that killed them but it didn't add up. what about all the dead fish washing ashore in different areas and the dead livestock? I don't remember reading about an explanation or seeing one on TV. it's as if it didn't happen?

Don't forget the stinkbugs that are ruining vast amounts of crops and have no natural predators in the U.S. and no way to kill 'em with insecticide because they pierce the crops and bypass the sprays. Farmers are worried.

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"KimPossible" wrote:

Really? After the Japan earthquake i looked at a list of the 16 most powerful earthquakes since we started recording them. 5 of them have been in the last decade. Unless the lists are wrong..i don't see evidence that they are getting weaker.

I read that too. Must go find the link. I was really surprised.

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"b525" wrote:

Don't forget the stinkbugs that are ruining vast amounts of crops and have no natural predators in the U.S. and no way to kill 'em with insecticide because they pierce the crops and bypass the sprays. Farmers are worried.

My kids are their predators, as am I, yet we aren't making a dent ;). These effers SUCK! Are they all over your house Becky? They plague us, and some of my friends with more shade have it much worse. Hate these things. I see this more of an import issue than an act of God or end times issue, but hot damn it is an issue none the less!

I feel like I read something on FB recently about some wasps who kill them or something ~ which scares me as much as the blessed stinkbugs do ~ I'm picturing stinky venemous large scale insect plague warfare going on in my back yard and I don't like it one bit.

I always wonder how much scarier or more catastrophic things seem simply because of the news coverage of them ~ 100 or 200 or 500 years ago we never would have known of things like the plague tsunamis or earthquakes or fires or whatnot.

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"Potter75" wrote:

My kids are their predators, as am I, yet we aren't making a dent ;). These effers SUCK! Are they all over your house Becky? They plague us, and some of my friends with more shade have it much worse. Hate these things. I see this more of an import issue than an act of God or end times issue, but hot damn it is an issue none the less!

I feel like I read something on FB recently about some wasps who kill them or something ~ which scares me as much as the blessed stinkbugs do ~ I'm picturing stinky venemous large scale insect plague warfare going on in my back yard and I don't like it one bit.

I always wonder how much scarier or more catastrophic things seem simply because of the news coverage of them ~ 100 or 200 or 500 years ago we never would have known of things like the plague tsunamis or earthquakes or fires or whatnot.

Yeah, and its not like you can compare the amount of deaths from these things now, compared to back then. A lot of these areas are so much more densely populated than they were back then...so while it is more catastrophic in the death toll amounts, the severity of the natural event might not really be that much different.

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All I want to add to this debate is that I hate stinkbugs. Hate them so much. They freak me the f*ck out.

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"SoxyToo" wrote:

What are the scientific reasons for the dead birds, thousands of miles apart, all falling from the sky? The prevailing theory was originally thought to be fireworks that killed them but it didn't add up. what about all the dead fish washing ashore in different areas and the dead livestock? I don't remember reading about an explanation or seeing one on TV. it's as if it didn't happen?

What I don't get is why god would kill livestock or fish to signify the "end of times". Just, like, to send a scary message, like, "Humanity - you see what I did with these birds? That was nothing..."?

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"KimPossible" wrote:

Really? After the Japan earthquake i looked at a list of the 16 most powerful earthquakes since we started recording them. 5 of them have been in the last decade. Unless the lists are wrong..i don't see evidence that they are getting weaker.

You also have to account for all the earthquakes that don't make the news as well--in 3rd world countries, in areas w/extremely low population (or out in the middle of nowhere). From what I have read, it's really nothing terribly unique. Compared to last year, I think we're actually experiencing less seismic activity, but I could be wrong.

We also have to take into consideration the length of time we've been tracking this kind of activity. If five of the "most power earthquakes" in the history of human existence occurred in the last decade, you'd have my attention, but we have no idea what our ancestors (pre-science and pre recorded history) experienced. We also have no idea what was happening in (then) non-populated areas.

If people want something to worry about in regard to earthquakes and natural disasters, check out the supervolcano in Wyoming and try to comprehend what that would do to the US if that sucker blew up.

As for dead birds and dead fish, I am not 100% sure on either. I have heard theories, a few that seem completely viable.

Our world is always going to be a hot bed for earth changes. Now, I'm not convinced that some of this stuff is due to global warming. I'm more inclined to believe that we're simply experiencing some more growing pains. I mean, after the earthquake in Japan, didn't the tile of Earth's axis shift by 4 inches?

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And on the dead cows. Cattle mutilation.

Duh. Aliens!

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"MsLulu" wrote:

You also have to account for all the earthquakes that don't make the news as well--in 3rd world countries, in areas w/extremely low population (or out in the middle of nowhere). From what I have read, it's really nothing terribly unique. Compared to last year, I think we're actually experiencing less seismic activity, but I could be wrong.

The list i saw was a government list, referenced in a few different places....i figured it was fairly accurate and took into account all the places where they measure seismic activity. Are there places with large faults that they don't measure this activity? I honestly don't know. Either way...i think almost a third of the most powerful earthquakes recorded since 1900 certainly doesn't attest to them getting any *less* powerful.

Our world is always going to be a hot bed for earth changes. Now, I'm not convinced that some of this stuff is due to global warming. I'm more inclined to believe that we're simply experiencing some more growing pains. I mean, after the earthquake in Japan, didn't the tile of Earth's axis shift by 4 inches?

Yeah it did. I tend to agree that these types of events are just naturally occurring, and I think its reasonable to think they are rather cyclical too...periods of rest and unrest around the world. Even if there has been more activity as of late...i don't see that as an indication that we are facing the ends of times. I tend not to think about that stuff much because...well, what am i going to do about it if it is..right? Smile

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Where are these stinkbugs? I don't believe they're in our area (*knock on wood and pray they stay away*) so I'm not familiar with them. Are they more in the east? Oh, and I read somewhere the tile shifted at least 8 inches...

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"Beertje" wrote:

Where are these stinkbugs? I don't believe they're in our area (*knock on wood and pray they stay away*) so I'm not familiar with them. Are they more in the east? Oh, and I read somewhere the tile shifted at least 8 inches...

The GPS coordinates in Japan have shifted as much as 13 feet.

The powerful and devastating 8.9 earthquake that hit Japan last week destroyed villages and dramatically altered the country's coastline. The magnitude was so great that is shifted the region's geography and as a result, GPS coordinates throughout Japan changed.

With approximately 1,200 GPS monitoring sites across Japan, GPS devices and maps will require an update to be considered accurate. In some areas, the geographical shift was as large as 13 feet. Elevation changes also occurred due to damage caused by the tsunami.

However, the changes may not be over. Since Japan continues to experience hundreds of aftershocks, the GPS coordinates could still shift. Therefore, it may be months or even a year until GPS maps of the area can be considered accurate.

http://www.gpscity.ca/buzz/2011/03/japans-earthquake-affects-gps-coordinates.html

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Gloria, if you can, go back to page 2 and read my post there. I'm really interested in your church's feelings on this as I was taught that it was a fruitless discussion to even have by my church. Because we believed in the scripture, and the scripture said no man, not even Jesus, would know! So how on earth could we ever know? I just feel like God make it ver clear in Revelations that we will have no CLUE of when it is going to happen. So I guess I feel like I'm going against God's word if I try to investigate and pick a date of when it will happen. And I'm sure He doesn't dig it, because it's showing we have no faith in the word, KWIM?

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"daniellevmt" wrote:

Gloria, if you can, go back to page 2 and read my post there. I'm really interested in your church's feelings on this as I was taught that it was a fruitless discussion to even have by my church. Because we believed in the scripture, and the scripture said no man, not even Jesus, would know! So how on earth could we ever know? I just feel like God make it ver clear in Revelations that we will have no CLUE of when it is going to happen. So I guess I feel like I'm going against God's word if I try to investigate and pick a date of when it will happen. And I'm sure He doesn't dig it, because it's showing we have no faith in the word, KWIM?

Ya we believe the same thing. We are studying Revelation which is why the topic came up, and we discussed those theories I gave but even with those 2 things there is no way anyone could know when it would happen. To me that makes the theories that some men come up with even more unbelieveable because anytime they come up with a day or a year or something I say.... okay I know it's NOT going to be that day Smile

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"Beertje" wrote:

Where are these stinkbugs? I don't believe they're in our area (*knock on wood and pray they stay away*) so I'm not familiar with them. Are they more in the east? Oh, and I read somewhere the tile shifted at least 8 inches...

Oh my goodness, they're hideous. I guess maybe they're Mid-Atlantic or east coast. They're not a local bug, so we have no natural predators here. I think they come from Asia somewhere, and the government will not allow farmers to bring the stinkbugs' natural predators from elsewhere because of fear that they will destroy the natural balance here (which is already out of balance because of these icky bugs). But, they're so destructive! The insert a probe (FLOABW) into the fruit and shoot some kind of softening agent (harmless to people) into it to soften the pulp, then slurp it out. It hardens the fruit, but it's still perfectly edible until it starts to rot because of the hole in the skin of the fruit.

Typical insecticides won't work because they just bypass it with their probe. People don't want to squish them because they stink. They can live for a really long time in water. Apparently, they seem to be surviving the winter pretty well. I heard some peach farmers here in Maryland lost their entire crop this year! Certain areas have worse infestations. They come inside through A/C units, etc. I heard lots of complaints about people's bedroom curtains crawling with the little buggers (shudder!!!!). They're pretty harmless to people, but hugely annoying. You don't dare swat at them or they'll dump their stink on you. I know they're a huge problem with fruit, but I don't know about the rest of crops.

And, they're really ugly. For real. Ew.

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Here is a picture of one:

According to wiki http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brown_marmorated_stink_bug, It was accidentally brought over from Asia (China). b525 is right with her info too. Jace and I woke up one morning and there was one on the wall right next to my bed. I immediately vacuumed it, because I can't work up the courage to kill them any other way. Now I feel itchy and creepy crawly.... eeek!!

BTW, I'm in Maryland, and there has been so many problems with them. One guy had a barn that was infested... about 12,000 of them!!

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They're ugly bugs, too! I hope they stay away from here as I've yet to see one of those! Ew, ew, ew! I'd be pulling out the vacuum as well, but I'd do that with almost any bug since I really can't stand most of them. Thanks for the information! Smile

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"daniellevmt" wrote:

But about that day or hour no one knows, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father."
“Therefore keep watch, because you do not know on what day your Lord will come. But understand this: If the owner of the house had known at what time of night the thief was coming, he would have kept watch and would not have let his house be broken into. 44 So you also must be ready, because the Son of Man will come at an hour when you do not expect him."

My "theory" lies in the verses above. Your answers are right there, Gloria! Smile
I can't remember who taught me this, but I learned not to question it at some point growing up. I'm not saying it is in fact right or wrong, but that's just what I remember. So maybe it's not "wrong", but for me, there's no need to question the time because scripture tells us that NO one, not even the angels, or Jesus even, will know. Only God knows. So how could we, mortal men, even speculate?

I was going to quote those verses, too ~ thank you, Danielle Smile I agree in the respect that these verses make it clear that no one knows or should try to speculate.

I remember one particular year that a pastor I happen to respect gave a date. I'm sure he meant well, but it made him look really bad when it didn't happen, and I'm sure there were people who left his church or stopped listening to him on TV because of it.

So much better to simply remind people to be ready for whenever it might happen.

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Yes. Whichever poster said, "I assume that, if someone has chosen a specific day, that's NOT going to be it," said exactly what I think. Since we don't know, any "known" date automatically has to be wrong, right?

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Quick, let's pick every day for the foreseeable future. Wink

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"Alissa_Sal" wrote:

Quick, let's pick every day for the foreseeable future. Wink

Except that doesn't help because you could still get hit by a bus on those days Smile

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"Alissa_Sal" wrote:

Quick, let's pick every day for the foreseeable future. Wink

Ha!

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"Alissa_Sal" wrote:

Quick, let's pick every day for the foreseeable future. Wink

So, since a bunch of humans have already picked 2012, does that mean that year is safe? LOL!

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