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    Should this dorm be allowed at a public school? The dorm was built entirely with private funds, though the land is leased from the school for $1. The Freedom from Religion Foundation is threatening a lawsuit, even though the students are requesting to live in this dorm entirely voluntarily, and there are other dorms available.


    While private universities with religious affiliation often impose rules in accordance with a particular faith, such living arrangements are rare at public universities, renewing a frequent debate about the separation of church and state.

    Indeed, the Wisconsin-based Freedom From Religion Foundation has complained the dorms are an unconstitutional since religion is at the core. However, there have been few complaints aside from a column in the student newspaper and a handful of social media posts. No protests have been held on campus, which has had a nondenominational religious chapel for years.

    University officials defend the arrangement as being more about promoting values and accommodating faithful students than proselytization, and they say a survey found that 75 percent of Troy students said faith was important to their college experience.

    The requirements are tough, but apparently also appealing to many students: The community, with room for 376 students in two new brick buildings, is nearly full. The dorms are open to all students, but would-be residents must apply and submit recommendations from a minister, school counselor or community leader. The dorms are coed, with men and women on alternating floors.

    Located just up a hill from fraternity row, the dorms' official name is the Newman Center. The community is part of a national network of Catholic student ministries named for Cardinal John Henry Newman, the namesake of a foundation that promotes Catholic ministries on college campuses.

    Rev. Den Irwin, the campus Catholic minister and parish priest in Troy, said Newman Centers are located at many public universities and typically operate as campus ministries, but the Troy complex is "pretty unusual" for its size and housing accommodations.

    "We can laugh, we can joke, we can eat, but we can also pray and learn," he said.

    The university has about 6,500 students on its main campus at Troy, which is covered with trees and has a large fountain with a statue of a Trojan at the center. A building boom has wiped out some old campus landmarks and created new ones like a spacious dining hall with so many foreign flags it resembles a miniature United Nations.

    The school is leasing the land for the faith-based dorms to the nonprofit Troy University Foundation, a private fundraising arm that constructed the buildings at a cost of almost $12 million. The Roman Catholic Archdiocese of Mobile, in turn, is leasing a section of one dorm that includes an activity room, a small kitchen and a room that will become a 24-hour-a-day chapel. The entire complex is referred to as the Newman Center.

    While the dorm is part of a Roman Catholic campus ministry, residents say the community is overwhelmingly Protestant, just like Alabama and the rest of the Deep South. Applicants to live in the dorms are not required to state a religious preference, and residents say there's a smattering of others faith represented in the community including Buddhism, Islam and Hinduism.

    Shanshan Duan, 24, grew up in a Buddhist family in southwest China. She is living in the faith community during her first year in a graduate English program at Troy. She said she is enjoying learning about American culture and faiths, and hasn't felt pressured to become a Christian.

    "It's not been a problem," said Duan.

    Kelsey Burgans, the community director, said the biggest complaints so far have been about typical college stuff, not religious strong-arming or rules violations.

    "We have had people come in and say, 'My roommate is so messy,'" said Burgans, also an assistant campus minister for Catholics.

    The university initially said churchgoers and students active in campus ministries would get preference in filling slots in the dorms, but it backed away following complaints from the Freedom From Religion Foundation. Still, foundation attorney Andrew Seidel is concerned the university is making decisions based on students' religion.

    "It has no need to be looking into these things and it has no power to look into these things," said Seidel.
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    I'm not okay with it.

    Why can't they just have "alcohol free dorms". I know plenty of schools that do no alcohol, no smoking etc as well as non coed dorms all which have nothing to do with religion but could appeal to many who follow strict religious guidelines.

    Why does it have mandatory community service and grade point average minimums? Is this a requirement to graduate?

    If this is a state sponsored school they shouldn't have this as a dorm.

    I wish it said more on the "requirements" you have to meet. I'm really curious as to how they pick those that get in here.
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    Yeah, it leaves a bad taste in my mouth. I'm okay if they wanted to have off campus housing that is specifically to promote a religious viewpoint, but I think that once they are on campus they need to follow normal campus policies.
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    I do not think it would need to be faith based to accomplish the same goals, however I believe there are dorms that belong to certain sororities that is just a group of people with similar interests. I do think it would be great to have some dorms that have no drinking, people of the opposite sex and so on. I would not have wanted to put up with that during college. (If someone wants that, great, but you shouldn't have to)

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    Quote Originally Posted by AlyssaEimers View Post
    I do not think it would need to be faith based to accomplish the same goals, however I believe there are dorms that belong to certain sororities that is just a group of people with similar interests. I do think it would be great to have some dorms that have no drinking, people of the opposite sex and so on. I would not have wanted to put up with that during college. (If someone wants that, great, but you shouldn't have to)

    Dorms that belong to sororities only? That seems so weird to me. When I was in school, sorority/frat housing was off campus. I wouldn't be on board with the school having a dorm only geared to people of a certain frat/sorority.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jessica80 View Post
    Dorms that belong to sororities only? That seems so weird to me. When I was in school, sorority/frat housing was off campus. I wouldn't be on board with the school having a dorm only geared to people of a certain frat/sorority.
    I totally could be wrong about it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alissa_Sal View Post
    Yeah, it leaves a bad taste in my mouth. I'm okay if they wanted to have off campus housing that is specifically to promote a religious viewpoint, but I think that once they are on campus they need to follow normal campus policies.
    ITA with this. I'm also kind of ticked about the $1 lease, the school is basically subsidizing the cost of this dorm by not requiring them to pay market rate or move off-campus.
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