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    If someone is proven to have abused someone else.. and not just an out of word of mouth restraining order.. They should NEVER be let back into society.
    He should again be banned from society now that he violated it.. Not sure why some judge or society saw fit to release him in the first place.
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    I feel so sorry for her, she has been a victim of domestic violence it seems and now re victimised by her employer because of her ex husbands actions not her own. I know Catholic schools operate under their own rulings and schools are different there to here, but how is that fair. Are those same people who fired her for the actions of another going to jump up and down when they see her receiving welfare payments because they made her unemployable and telling her she should get off her butt and work and stop being a dole bludger. I find this disgusting, if she had appropriate orders out, including no contact and he violated them how can she be responsible.
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    I don't think it's even close to reasonable that she be fired. But I do think the kids at school deserve to be protected from the potential violence this guy brings. Like Rivergallery, I really don't see how the legal system can justify releasing him at all. He's not going to let up.

    It's a tough one. They are wrong to fire her, but they are not wrong to want to protect the students & faculty from a dangerous violent man. And steeping up security would be great, but that costs money.

    Are there other options? Can they work directly with the police to keep this guy away and make it clear that the consequences for him would be dire?

    Can they help place her somewhere else?

    I have nothing but sympathy for this woman and her children and they deserve to be protected, not shunned and denied the means to earn a living and get an education.

    Firing her is completely unfair, and the whole situation is unfair to everybody involved.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Spacers View Post
    Are you really saying that your child is more important than any other child here whose parents were, essentially, just lucky to not struggle with infertility or miscarriages? How selfish.
    No, my child is not more important then the other children (other then to me). I would be concerned for any child. This guy showed up at the school, that put children in danger.... if any child was injured because of this guy there would be lawsuits like crazy. The school knew of the potential danger and if they did nothing they would be liable. No it is not fair that the teacher was fired but life is not fair. And it is not fair to have the school pay for extra security.

    My child is important to ME, but I am concerned about all the children in his school. And I can tell you now that in every job I have had, I would have been fired if an abusive ex showed up at my employment as it puts others in danger that should not be in danger.
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    Honestly I cannot imagine being fired if this happened to me. I haven't worked anywhere where it would be grounds for dismissal (even though you can fire at will in my state). None of my employers would fire me for this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mom2robbie View Post
    No, my child is not more important then the other children (other then to me). I would be concerned for any child. This guy showed up at the school, that put children in danger.... if any child was injured because of this guy there would be lawsuits like crazy. The school knew of the potential danger and if they did nothing they would be liable. No it is not fair that the teacher was fired but life is not fair. And it is not fair to have the school pay for extra security.

    My child is important to ME, but I am concerned about all the children in his school. And I can tell you now that in every job I have had, I would have been fired if an abusive ex showed up at my employment as it puts others in danger that should not be in danger.
    I'd like the other Canadian's to chime in on this one, because I'm honestly curious, would you be fired for this? Because that is HORRIBLE!

    And I'm sorry, but whipping out the miscarriage card is just a legit debate standard, IMO. While I am truly terribly sorry that you have suffered losses, that does not make your living child, or your opinion, any more valid. It should not even enter into the debate, frankly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Potter75 View Post
    I'd like the other Canadian's to chime in on this one, because I'm honestly curious, would you be fired for this? Because that is HORRIBLE!
    She lives in Alberta which has the absolute worst labour laws in the country. But no, it would be very difficult to fire a normal employee. A teacher though? This would not be possible. The Alberta Teacher's Association would not let it happen. The absolute worst that could happen is she would be transferred to an administrative position outside of a school - and that would be after a long protracted legal fight.

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    It's just crazy to me...she has a restraining order against him and he is currently in jail. If this had just be some random stalker that saw her at the food court at the mall and became obsessed, would she have been fired?

    Sometimes custody issues can get messy. Court orders and restraining orders don't always keep a parent/grandparent from trying to access a child at school. The parent/grandparent could theoritically pose a general risk to others at the school. Is that enough for them to kick the child out of school? What kind of backlash would they face?

    Firing her doesn't guarantee their safety. He can still show up there looking for her and get mad/violent when he's told she isn't there. (If he gets out of prison that is.)

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    Totally unfair to that woman. The guy didn't even go inside the school if I read that article correctly. I am sure the school meant well and were concerned for the safety of the students, but we need to stand up for women like that, to defend them against those types of criminals (because really, that's what they are). I mean c'mon, call the police if he shows up. They deal with criminals, no? That doesn't cost the school anything, right? And they let her go before the guy even had a CHANCE of getting out of jail early?

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    Quote Originally Posted by blather View Post
    She lives in Alberta which has the absolute worst labour laws in the country. But no, it would be very difficult to fire a normal employee. A teacher though? This would not be possible. The Alberta Teacher's Association would not let it happen. The absolute worst that could happen is she would be transferred to an administrative position outside of a school - and that would be after a long protracted legal fight.
    Actually my job was with the federal government so Alberta Labour laws do not come into effect. I would however would have lost my security clearance and therefore my job.

    Also, here we do not have the big worry of nut jobs coming to our schools with guns and killing a bunch of people.

    And for what it is worth, most of my working days have been in Ontario, where yes, I would have lost jobs.
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