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    We don't get flu shots. Here is another article stating they are worthless.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rivergallery View Post
    Not sure which exact issues you are saying are a lie.. and not sure I really want to debate it.. but I will debate ONE... thermisol is in SOME.. according to the CDC.. so the doctor telling you there is no mercury in any vaccines is NOT true.. and yet the statement that Mercury is in ALL vaccines.. or in ALL flu vaccines is not true either.. a true statement would be.. Mercury is still in SOME flu vaccines.. If you are worried about mercury in your vaccines ask to see the packaging on the vaccine.

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    Thimerosal is only in the multiple-dose vials that are used to fill many syringes, because once opened the vial is exposed to bacteria & fungi. It's easy to avoid Thimerosal in a flu vaccine. Just ask for the single dose pre-prepped syringe or the nasal spray. Those will never have Thimerosal because there's no need for it, they're used and there's nothing left that needs to be preserved.

    We're lucky to live on the other side of the world from where Influenza starts its rounds every year or I think many of you wouldn't be so blase about it. And if you'd ever had it, or known someone personally who had it, you probably wouldn't be so blase about it. Influenza is a very serious illness that routinely kills hundreds of people every year before a vaccine can be made for that year's most dangerous strains. True, most of the people who die already have compromised immune systems, but even healthy people are wiped out by it for weeks. It's not something you can shake in a few days like the normal run-of-the-mill viruses where you can take some Sudafed & Tylenol & plow on with your life. I'm not worried about dying from Influenza, but me being off work for a month would wipe us out financially, no doubt about it. Having my DH out of commission for a month wiped me out emotionally & physically from trying to do everything myself for both kids in addition to taking care of him; I've made him get a flu shot every year since then because I'm just not going through that again. And when Tiven had it, she was out of school for nearly three weeks; thankfully it was just preschool, I can't imagine her missing that much real school. One of my neighbors was perfectly healthy and never got a flu shot, relying on his supposedly strong immune system. He got sick with Influenza last year and it triggered kidney failure. He had to take medical retirement because he was missing so much work, and he might need a transplant if his kidney function doesn't improve. Because he didn't get a flu shot. I just don't get the thinking on this one.
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    Yeah, what Stacy said in that first paragraph. I'm all good with anyone who does a little research and makes a sound decision not to get the flu shot. That's fine - I personally don't care what someone else who has done their homework and still chooses not to get the flu shot does. It's the conspiracy theorists and paranoid anti-vaxers who create such a scare - a scare that spreads faster that the friggin flu does - so that masses of people avoid getting the vaccine and lo and behold - a massive outbreak of the flu. Pisses me off, actually.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spacers View Post
    Thimerosal is only in the multiple-dose vials
    POINT is..... Mercury is in (ETA SOME)Flu shots.. and those that do not have all the information... do not know which ones do and which ones do not. and their doctors are saying that flu shots do not.. and that is a lie.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rivergallery View Post
    POINT is..... Mercury is in (ETA SOME)Flu shots.. and those that do not have all the information... do not know which ones do and which ones do not. and their doctors are saying that flu shots do not.. and that is a lie.
    Who are these people, specifically? Is there some kind of cover up by family doctors to lie to their patients, or is this the heavy hand of 'big pharma' influencing doctors to misrepresent the risks/advantages of the flu vaccine? If you have some statistics as to the number of people who have been lied to by their doctors please cite. I don't care about somebody that you know, or somebody you heard it through. You talk like these lying doctors are in vast numbers or something.

    eta - And the point of my post, which I forgot to post, is that the kind of mercury that is a neurotoxin and that the paranoid crowd is throwing around in conjunction with the scary word 'thimerosal' isn't even the same kind of mercury that causes neurologicial problems. It's a totally different chemical compound and has never ever been proven to be harmful.
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    In this thread YOU said that the statements in the OP link were a LIE so I picked one.. and it wasn't a lie. There is Mercury in (some) Flu Vaccines.

    SO the WHO.... would be YOU.

    The Link said Mercury as well as other toxins.. it is fact things like Formaldehyde are in the flu vax.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rivergallery View Post
    POINT is..... Mercury is in (ETA SOME)Flu shots.. and those that do not have all the information... do not know which ones do and which ones do not. and their doctors are saying that flu shots do not.. and that is a lie.
    The article in the OP says, "It is now a known fact that flu vaccines contain mercury."
    THAT IS A LIE. The ONLY flu vaccines that contain mercury are the ones in multi-use vials. Nasal sprays and single-dose syringes do not, and those are what most people lining up at flu shot clinics are getting because no one is going to take the time to fill up a bunch of single syringes from one bottle. And while I'd love to get into all the other lies in that article, I'm not going to because I have other things to do today.
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    From the article I posted.

    For most people, says Dr. Blaylock, flu vaccines don’t prevent the flu but actually increase the odds of getting it. The mercury contained in vaccines is such a strong immune depressant that a flu shot suppresses immunity for several weeks. “This makes people highly susceptible to catching the flu,” he says. “They may even think the vaccine gave them the flu, but that’s not true — it depressed their immune system and then they caught the flu.”

    Mercury overstimulates the brain for several years, says Dr. Blaylock, and that activation is the cause of Alzheimer’s and other degenerative diseases. One study found that those who get the flu vaccine for three to five years increase their risk of Alzheimer’s disease 10-fold.

    Doshi asserts that influenza is a case of “disease mongering” in an effort to expand markets. He points to the fact that deaths from flu declined sharply during the middle of the 20th century, long before the huge vaccine campaigns that kicked off the 21st century.

    Why do drug companies push the flu vaccine? “It’s all about money,” says Dr. Blaylock. “Vaccines are a pharmaceutical company’s dream. They have a product that both the government and the media will help them sell, and since vaccines are protected, they can’t be sued if anyone has a complication.”
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