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If you were going to have your children learn or learn yourself another language, what language would it be and why?

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I would let them choose. I think Spanish would be the most useful to them, and I have a particular love of French, I think Chinese WILL be really useful, but mostly I think learning a language is valuable in many ways so whatever language they are interested in will be fine with me.

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Yes, learning any language is beneficial to them. If you are looking for an additional boost in their vocabulary and understanding of new words in English any Romantic language is helpful for that. I was a Spanish major in college so of course I'm partial to that. I would love to learn French or Polish now though.

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I would prefer they learn Spanish or Chinese because I think going forward they are reliably going to be useful to my kids during their lifetime.

I'm actually rather frustrated with this because I live in an area that is heavily influenced by the French Canadian culture over the border and by default they teach the kids French here and if there is only going to be one option, i'd rather it be spanish. Its great and all that there are many french canadians so nearby, but ultimately that is not my benchmark for what is academically ideal.

I understand why it makes more sense if you live in Aroostook county Maine, where not knowing french could actually become an obstacle to communicating with people you will encounter daily. But thats simply not true here in this part of Maine.

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Our girls have been learning ASL since birth, but I am starting to think of what language to do next. To me it seems the obvious choice is Spanish, because that is what we come across the most. Being in Fla was an eye opener to me. There were more foreigners than I have ever seen in my life. It made me think I need to think about it some more before I decide.

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I would prefer they learn Spanish or Chinese because I think going forward they are reliably going to be useful to my kids during their lifetime.

I'm actually rather frustrated with this because I live in an area that is heavily influenced by the French Canadian culture over the border and by default they teach the kids French here and if there is only going to be one option, i'd rather it be spanish. Its great and all that there are many french canadians so nearby, but ultimately that is not my benchmark for what is academically ideal.

I understand why it makes more sense if you live in Aroostook county Maine, where not knowing french could actually become an obstacle to communicating with people you will encounter daily. But thats simply not true here in this part of Maine.

They only have the French option? I went to a fairly small regional school system and we had Spanish, French and Portuguese (we live in an area that has a high Portuguese population.)

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They only have the French option? I went to a fairly small regional school system and we had Spanish, French and Portuguese (we live in an area that has a high Portuguese population.)

I'm pretty certain here in Maine, it seems that if they only offer one language....it is often french. It may be different further south near Portland where they are...i don't know, more with the times i guess then they are up here. Mind you, i'm speaking at the elementary/middle school level, i'm sure hoping there are more options at the high school level. But the unfortunate thing is that if kids starting learning French in grade school....what are they most likely going to want to learn in high school? Many are going to choose French because it is most familiar.

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True. I wanted FL in elementary here and so far it's just here and there. You take French or Spanish in the middle school years and only if your grades in your other classes are good. HS everyone takes one. I wish they started earlier.

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Definitely French, as it's one of our official languages. Being bilingual here is a huge asset. If I could, I'd send them to France to learn because Parisienne French just sounds so much better than Canadian French.

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In Texas it would be Spanish absolutely. Especially since my kids are half Mexican. It still irks me that their Dad never even attempts to teach them Spanish when he can speak it fluently. They teach it in school here but they don't really seem to learn much that way.

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My daughter is in french immersion and so is learning french. I am hoping it will help her in the future, I know if I had kept my french up, I would have so many more job opportunities then I do now. DH too.

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My daughter is in french immersion and so is learning french. I am hoping it will help her in the future, I know if I had kept my french up, I would have so many more job opportunities then I do now. DH too.

I hear ya. My 3 nephews are all in immersion and the oldest, who is 10, is fluent. I am considering immersion for DD next year, but then my SIL was telling me that the curriculum is slower than the english schools. Do you think that's true? I have no idea. She says the 10-year-old is bored sometimes.

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Spanish. Once my DH is done with school this spring we are all learning it. I used to be conversationally fluent but have lost it from disuse.

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Spanish. Once my DH is done with school this spring we are all learning it. I used to be conversationally fluent but have lost it from disuse.

Same here. I could read, write and speak with pretty much ease. Now, my reading is okay but I've lost the rest of it pretty much. Sigh.

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Everyone in Canada has to learn French to a certain level which I am fine with. If she wants to choose another language that is great. I think the more languages one is exposed to the better. DSD did her French and is now doing some Spanish.

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"ClairesMommy" wrote:

Definitely French, as it's one of our official languages. Being bilingual here is a huge asset. If I could, I'd send them to France to learn because Parisienne French just sounds so much better than Canadian French.

I think the French we learn is Parisian not Quebecois. At least in BC it is. I did French up to first year University and I had no problem speaking with our TA from Paris. But I can't hold a conversation with someone from Quebec at all.

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My daughter is in french immersion and so is learning french. I am hoping it will help her in the future, I know if I had kept my french up, I would have so many more job opportunities then I do now. DH too.

Yep. My sister did full immersion and is now bilingual. She has a lot of prospects open to her because of that. For the moment DD will be in English school starting next year. But there is an option for a late start French Immersion in grade 6. If she is really excelling and needs a challenge then we will look at immersion. If she is doing well in school, but an extra challenge would be detrimental then she will stay in English school. For myself, my other sister and my DSS immersion would have been a wonderful option as we were all bored silly in school.

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"fuchsiasky" wrote:

Yep. My sister did full immersion and is now bilingual. She has a lot of prospects open to her because of that. For the moment DD will be in English school starting next year. But there is an option for a late start French Immersion in grade 6. If she is really excelling and needs a challenge then we will look at immersion. If she is doing well in school, but an extra challenge would be detrimental then she will stay in English school. For myself, my other sister and my DSS immersion would have been a wonderful option as we were all bored silly in school.

I did late immersion and loved it. Unfortunately we moved when I was in grade 8 and I wasn't able to continue with it, which I really regret now.

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"ClairesMommy" wrote:

I hear ya. My 3 nephews are all in immersion and the oldest, who is 10, is fluent. I am considering immersion for DD next year, but then my SIL was telling me that the curriculum is slower than the english schools. Do you think that's true? I have no idea. She says the 10-year-old is bored sometimes.

You are in Alberta right? Curriculum in schools is provincially based, so I can only speak to BC, though they tend to be similar. Here the curriculum is the same in English and French except that up until grade 4 they only do French and no English at all (so all the things that would normally fall under the English Curriculum, they do in french), then in Grade 4 they start learning 'English' as a separate subject, similar to learning a second language at that grade. From that point on they do more and more subjects in English until by grade 12 they are completely working in English except for a French class or two.

As a teacher I will say that French immersion tends to be a higher quality of education because children who struggle tend to be streamed back into the English program, so the teacher is able to teach to a narrower range of abilities then in a classic school setting.

Not sure what you mean by 'slower', but perhaps it is the way the teacher teaches, or maybe your nephew would be bored in any school setting?

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We speak Turkish already but maybe one day I/we can learn Spanish. I had a difficult time in Spanish class while in high school because my foreign language brain automatically wanted me to speak in Turkish.

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"ftmom" wrote:

You are in Alberta right? Curriculum in schools is provincially based, so I can only speak to BC, though they tend to be similar. Here the curriculum is the same in English and French except that up until grade 4 they only do French and no English at all (so all the things that would normally fall under the English Curriculum, they do in french), then in Grade 4 they start learning 'English' as a separate subject, similar to learning a second language at that grade. From that point on they do more and more subjects in English until by grade 12 they are completely working in English except for a French class or two.

As a teacher I will say that French immersion tends to be a higher quality of education because children who struggle tend to be streamed back into the English program, so the teacher is able to teach to a narrower range of abilities then in a classic school setting.

Not sure what you mean by 'slower', but perhaps it is the way the teacher teaches, or maybe your nephew would be bored in any school setting?

They are in Ontario. I think that the curriculum is the same whether french or english there (or anywhere), but my SIL was saying that in certain subjects there's a bit of an initial barrier, say math, where you're also learning a whole subset of french specifically related to math terms, and then you have to learn the math itself, so for the kids who learn the terms easily they are often bored because the other kids are taking longer and they're behind their english curriculum peers.

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They are in Ontario.

Totally OT, but seeing the word Ontario makes me immediately starting singing the song for MarineLand. I grew up so close to Ontario that we got their TV commercials.

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Totally OT, but seeing the word Ontario makes me immediately starting singing the song for MarineLand. I grew up so close to Ontario that we got their TV commercials.

Thanks Bonita. Now I have that song in my head. ;). Yeah, we have a ton of feeder channels and we get US commercials from all over - Atlanta, Detroit, Chicago, NYC etc. I love the accents Smile

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Thanks Bonita. Now I have that song in my head. ;). Yeah, we have a ton of feeder channels and we get US commercials from all over - Atlanta, Detroit, Chicago, NYC etc. I love the accents Smile

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Now I have that song in my head too....Marineland and Game FARM...da da da da da DA!!!

We used to get all Buffalo commercials, growing up in Toronto. I remember them all!

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Now I have that song in my head too....Marineland and Game FARM...da da da da da DA!!!

We used to get all Buffalo commercials, growing up in Toronto. I remember them all!

How far is Ontario from Toronto. Now that you mention it I think Toronto is closer. I grew up about one hour South of Buffalo.

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Now I have that song in my head too....Marineland and Game FARM...da da da da da DA!!!

We used to get all Buffalo commercials, growing up in Toronto. I remember them all!

Our most local US channel growing up was from Watertown NY. That is one strange accent....Watertown.

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Bonita, Ontario is a province. Toronto is the capital of Ontario.

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"ClairesMommy" wrote:

Bonita, Ontario is a province. Toronto is the capital of Ontario.

Duh! I so would have known that if I had thought about it.

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In Texas it would be Spanish absolutely. Especially since my kids are half Mexican. It still irks me that their Dad never even attempts to teach them Spanish when he can speak it fluently. They teach it in school here but they don't really seem to learn much that way.

My DH feels the same way. His dad is white but he's fluently bilingual in Spanish and never bothered to teach any Spanish to his kids. I used to be conversationally OK with Spanish but I've lost a lot of it from lack of use, although I can still read it pretty well. DH is the same way with French. Tiven learned a lot of Chinese at preschool and we considered putting her in Chinese immersion but the only schools with that program are across town. If there was a neighborhood school with any immersion program, we'd have applied. Having a second or third language is so helpful. Many of Tiven's friends are bilingual or even trilingual.

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Everyone loves.....Marine land!

We may be moving in the next year, and they have a college in the next town that offers French courses. I am thinking that is how I will spend our years there, so that when we move, I am pretty much guaranteed a job Smile

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I did Indonesian at school for about 4 years and then I started French but it was at an accelerated pace with a full class load so I had to give it up (most people who took it dropped a class).

If my son wanted to learn a language hge could do whatever he chose. If we still live here when he gets to the appropriate grade at school where they start LOTe he will have no choice as Italian is the only language offered and is compulsory. Our town has a large Italian community

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Spanish is the most useful around here, for sure. T is currently doing a Spanish program 1 day a week, and I just found out that his Elementary School also offers Spanish from K forward, so we will continue with that. Count me as another one whose father is bilingual, but he never spoke a lot of Spanish at home (I guess because my mom doesn't speak it.) I can understand and speak some conversational Spanish from my dad, but I get tripped up on weird random words, like "apple" (that happened just yesterday.)

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I used to work with this girl who speaks (besides English, obv) Greek, Spanish, French, Mandarin - all fluently - and could also 'get by' in Russian. Crazy.

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I just want you to know I was haunted by the Marineland song all weekend, pretty much up until I watched the Oscars.

Anyway, the more languages, the better. I am jealous of all of those who speak more than one.

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"freddieflounder101" wrote:

I just want you to know I was haunted by the Marineland song all weekend, pretty much up until I watched the Oscars.

That is too funny! Smile

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I am not visiting this thread anymore. Damn you guys and your Marineland jingle. I keep thinking about that poor Shamu.