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    We're discussed this before, but now it looks like there are companies directly targeting those cultures that value boys over girls and statistics are backing the claims that a disproportionate number of boys are born to women of certain ethnicities.

    What, if anything, do you think should be about this? Advertising restrictions? The procedure is already illegal in Canada, but nothing stops people from crossing the border to have it done. Should these procedures/technologies be restricted?

    ETA: I'm sure there are many articles out there. Here is one that shows the ad.

    http://news.nationalpost.com/2012/04...ian-community/
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    Personally, I just think it's gross. People should be more fixated on having a healthy baby than complaining over the gender. Legally, I'm not sure - I need to read more on how "gender selection" happens. Is it like IVF and they test before implanting? I'm in the mind of a life is a life at conception, so I'm opposed to any fetus being thrown out just because of gender.

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    ooh, I read that CBC article about the Indo newspaper in BC with the US advertising for gender selection, and the publisher was pleading that they had no idea it was illegal in Canada and have consulted their lawyers. Ya, right they didn't know it was illegal. But whatever, go ahead, breed yourselves right into extinction, or at least into a situation where the men are practically fighting to the death for the limited number of females.

    Here's the article I read:

    http://www.cbc.ca/news/health/story/...ent-child.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by RebeccaA'07 View Post
    Personally, I just think it's gross. People should be more fixated on having a healthy baby than complaining over the gender. Legally, I'm not sure - I need to read more on how "gender selection" happens. Is it like IVF and they test before implanting? I'm in the mind of a life is a life at conception, so I'm opposed to any fetus being thrown out just because of gender.
    I think they select xy sperm only, so they know for sure the embryo is male.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Claire'sMommy View Post
    I think they select xy sperm only, so they know for sure the embryo is male.
    Yes, the high tech expensive way is to do IVF with chromosomal studies. The low tech method (which also happens) is an abortion. The ad is for a fertility treatment center that will determine the sex of the embryos prior to implantation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kris_w View Post
    Yes, the high tech expensive way is to do IVF with chromosomal studies. The low tech method (which also happens) is an abortion. The ad is for a fertility treatment center that will determine the sex of the embryos prior to implantation.
    I watched this documentary ages ago about gender selection and even the poorest villages in India have an ultrasound machine.

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    While it isn't a method I would choose, I actually think that allowing the technology that preselects before implantation and before you have a fetus is preferable to abandoned baby girls, aborted baby girls, etc. Better to not "create" them in the first place if the parents don't want them.

    I guess I feel like we have the technology and I'd rather permit its use across the board than not. Are you going to legislate that you can use gender selection technology in cases where it will prevent a sex-linked disease and not use it to balance families?

    I also don't think that the majority of people would select girls over boys. Outside of these cultures, most parents value boys and girls equally, so I don't think "most" people would opt in for the technology (both bc they don't want to choose and bc of the expense involved.)
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    I think it's sad, but I guess I don't understand why it's illegal. Abortion is legal. Creating embryos and then discarding them is legal. Why do the reasons behind the act matter?
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    It doesn't bother me in the slightest. I have several friends who sex selected their babies when doing IUI, why is it suddenly more wrong or disgusting if its people of a different culture doing it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Potter75 View Post
    It doesn't bother me in the slightest. I have several friends who sex selected their babies when doing IUI, why is it suddenly more wrong or disgusting if its people of a different culture doing it?
    I think it's because of the underlying culture behind it. Like okay, if your friends did it because they just always always always dreamed of having a little girl (or a little boy) and this could be their one shot at having a child at all, that's not really part of a pervasive cultural devalueing of women (or men), it's just personal preference. I have always wanted a daughter, because I'm really really close with my mom and I would love to share that same sort of closeness with a daughter of my own. I wouldn't terminate a pregnancy if it turned out to be a boy, but in my heart of hearts I would love to have a daughter. I get that. But that's kind of a different thing (in my mind) than not wanting a certain sex simply because my culture has taught me that members of that sex are worthless, or any way, worth less.

    Again, I think it should be allowed because I don't think that the thought process behind it makes a difference when we're talking about a legal act, but I still think that a culture that devalues women to the point of aborting them or choosing not to have them is a little sad, and a different scenario than your friends (presumably.)
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