Genderless preschool

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Genderless preschool

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/lifestyle/the-other-side/pc-preschool-bans-words-him-and-her/story-e6frfhk6-1226082516997

What do you think? Is it something you think might catch on, or just over the top and not really needed?

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I don't think the way to deal with the negative aspects of gender roles is to get rid of gender.

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"culturedmom" wrote:

I don't think the way to deal with the negative aspects of gender roles is to get rid of gender.

This!

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I personally think it is very very sad. "Nearly all the children's books deal with homosexual couples, single parents or adopted children." What about the majority of the population that are Heterosexual families. If my child was in a homosexual family then this might be a perfect placec for them, but for children in heterosexual families then the preschools already out there would be more comfortable. I also place HIGH value on individuality.. to the point that GOD made us MALE and FEMALE.. and he said it was GOOD. The gender differences are good! It is not ok to make fun or think less of someone if they are more masculine or feminine.. this viewpoint is something we need to work on. HOWEVER, by erasing the gender all together we are saying it is wrong and worthless. Gender differences are OK, good. And we are called to different roles within the family dynamics.. this can still look like a mother at work and a father at home. It is the WAY the interaction happen that God outlines in the Bible.

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I think it is just weird. There was an article in the Toronto Star a few months ago about a couple who refused to tell anyone the gender of their baby. They wanted the baby to not have the sterotypes attatched. There was a huge up roar from the community that this was some kind of creepy social experiment. I had to agree.

My DD is a girl and she knows she is a girl. My DD also plays with trucks and likes to get dirty but she also likes to play with dolls and color and read books. Genfer should not define a person or define what they can do, but I don't think it should be something that needs to be hidden.

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"Rivergallery" wrote:

I personally think it is very very sad. "Nearly all the children's books deal with homosexual couples, single parents or adopted children." What about the majority of the population that are Heterosexual families. If my child was in a homosexual family then this might be a perfect placec for them, but for children in heterosexual families then the preschools already out there would be more comfortable. I also place HIGH value on individuality.. to the point that GOD made us MALE and FEMALE.. and he said it was GOOD. The gender differences are good! It is not ok to make fun or think less of someone if they are more masculine or feminine.. this viewpoint is something we need to work on. HOWEVER, by erasing the gender all together we are saying it is wrong and worthless. Gender differences are OK, good. And we are called to different roles within the family dynamics.. this can still look like a mother at work and a father at home. It is the WAY the interaction happen that God outlines in the Bible.

Not sure what G-d has to do with the issue but I completely disagree about the lack of heterosexual families in books being a detriment and that they would be more comfortable in "normal" preschools. Kids are bombarded with opposite sex parent images all the time. It's the norm and they see it all around them which makes it very clear what "normal" is. I actually applaud the school for making a concerted effort to introduce other types of families to the students in a way that normalizes it. Kids should learn that families come in all forms and having 2 dads or 1 mom or grandma and grandpa or being adopted, is just as normal a family as having a mother and father.

I don't believe that the children from two family heterosexual homes are being marginalized.

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"Different gender roles aren't problematic as long as they are equally valued,"

I agree with this from the article. Seems silly to me to want everyone to be the same. I embrace my feminity, but am not caged by it and have NEVER felt that way whether I wanted to play with a barbie or play catch.

My son is naturally a boy. I didn't push anything on him, but he is rough and tumble - all boy. I think a lot of gender stereotypes come from a place of truth initially because a majority in that gender have propensities towards different things. This isn't bad nor is it limiting, it is just statistically more common for certain traits to present in certain genders.

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Weird. Just weird. Banning the hims and hers? Really?

I think the best way to break gender stereotypes is in the home. At our house, my oldest dd was SHOCKED when she went to kindy and learned that in some homes the dad goes to work and the mom stays home. She was flabbergasted, since at our house it is the opposite.....cracked dh and me up. We also have more than one set of gay friends and our kids know that love is what makes a family-- nothing else.

I think there is room for all types of families and am not worried about heterosexual families being marginalized...but this doesn't seem to be the way to solve the marginalization of homosexuals IMO.

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I find this to be going too far IMO. In my DD's preschool the blocks are next to the kitchen, not because someone planned it that way , but because that was a good place to fit them. There are no books with any kinds of families on the shelves most of the time because they are teaching about bugs and cars and careers etc, and not gender or family roles.

The problem with this preschool, as I see it, is that they are taking away ALL roles. If everyone can be the mom, then what are the moms roles? Why not suggest instead that a girl can play the Dad 'role', or that she be an aunt or other type of caregiver. If everyone is a 'Mom' and the kids only see one role for a 'mom' then there can only be confusion IMO. Maybe the article just didnt explain it well, Im sure it wasnt as in depth as it could have been. I see what they are trying to get at, I just see these kids being confused as they get older.

OK, I re-read, and just to clarify, even if you dont follow traditional roles, in families, jobs, life in general everyone has a 'role' that they play and things can get confusing if no one knows who does what. I am worried that that is what is missing for these kids.

Besides, if you want to break down gender roles, have a male preschool teacher, invite in a female mechanic, policeman, etc and a male nurse secretary etc and teach about careers. Dont hit these poor kids over the head with this.

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"boilermaker" wrote:

At our house, my oldest dd was SHOCKED when she went to kindy and learned that in some homes the dad goes to work and the mom stays home. She was flabbergasted, since at our house it is the opposite.....

That is amazing to me! By 5 she had not met other kids who had different familial set ups than her own?

I think that if this is what some parents want for their children, more power to em. We would not send our children there as this is ridiculous to us.

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Definitely not for me. I don't play into negative aspects of gender roles in my home. Will he learn them outside of our home? Sure. But I can't justify sending him to a "genderless preschool" because of it. To me, it's almost delaying the inevitable. Once these kids are out of PS, they'll go on to a regular school most likely, where they will still be "sponges" and they'll learn them there. As a parent, I feel I can lay down the foundation and continue to reinforce it at home to combat negative gender roles.

That said, if other parents feel it's beneficial, that's cool. Just not for us.

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I know, weird, right, Melis? It surprised dh and me. I just don't think she noticed how other families were set up before then--like it wasn't on her radar. And in our neighborhood mostly both parents work-- so she had seen that before....but it just surprised her about the dad going to work.

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Holy moly when did everyone become so weird and PC??? You could put these kids in potato sacks, but at the end of the day, they still have one of two things in between their legs! IMHO there's absolutely NOTHING wrong with letting boys be boys and girls be girls. It's the way that things have been done for TENS OF THOUSANDS of years!