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    Do you think that mainstream media is playing down coverage of the Gosnell trial for political reasons?

    It is hard to decide the most appalling images to emerge Thursday at the murder trial of Philadelphia abortion doctor Kermit Gosnell. What happened in his abortion clinic is beyond any morbid Hollywood horror.

    Tiny severed feet and hands stored in jars over a sink in the ?procedure? room.

    Digitalis injected into the stomachs of pregnant women to stop the beating hearts of their unborn babies so that they would be born dead.

    Survivor babies whose spinal cords were severed, whose brains were removed with suction, whose tiny bodies were placed in a waste bin for disposal.

    Then there is commonwealth exhibit C-147, depicting a large baby balled in the fetal position, bloody, stuffed in a bin. ?Big enough to walk me home,? joked Gosnell when he saw the child?s remains, testified Ashly Baldwin, a clinic employee.

    Gosnell, 72, is charged with killing seven born-alive babies and causing the death of Karnamaya Mongar, 41, an immigrant from Nepal who had sought an abortion at his West Philadelphia clinic. The clinic was busy, doing brisk cash business, catering not only to local women in West Philadelphia, but also women from the affluent surrounding suburbs of Bucks and Montgomery counties. Gosnell?s reputation for no-wait abortions was so well known, women would fly in from other states.

    The prosecution alleges that Gosnell?s clinic regularly delivered live babies in the third trimester and killed them by severing their spinal cords or a ?snip,? which according to testimony is what Gosnell called the procedure.

    On Thursday, when I was there, Ashly Baldwin, 22, testified that she began working at the clinic when she was 15. Though unqualified and unlicensed as a medical technician, she began medicating women, even administering injections with a butterfly needle, under Gosnell?s instructions.

    She testified that she saw digitalis injected, and explained that its purpose in abortions is to kill the unborn child so ?it would come out dead.?

    But in some of the most horrifying testimony of the day, Baldwin described how she saw babies born alive, with hearts beating rapidly, some of them moving and ?flinching,? and some making baby sounds or ?screeching.?

    Until the FBI raided his clinic in 2010, he had operated for 30 years at 3801 Lancaster Ave., in the clinic he called the ?Women?s Health Society.?

    There was little healthy about it. Bloody floors, dirty equipment. The filthy gynecological bed with stirrups on which Karnamaya Mongar went into cardiac arrest from a drug reaction, and later died, sat in the middle of the courtroom, in front of the jury.

    Tina Baldwin testified that Gosnell treated women differently, based on their race. White women ?with money? were taken to an ?immaculate? upstairs room where Gosnell treated them personally. Poor black, Latino and other women were kept in the clinic?s dingy, dirty downstairs rooms, and were usually treated by medically unqualified staff.

    Tina Baldwin said she asked Gosnell about why he treated white women differently from the others. She recalled him saying, ?Sorry, but that?s how it is.?

    Thursday?s testimony had sensational details. The court staff, convinced it would attract journalists from around the nation, has set aside three rows of seats to accommodate up to 40 reporters. But all Thursday morning, as Ashly Baldwin testified to horror after horror, only one reporter was in the reserved seating ? me.

    Several local news outlets were there, scattered about the mostly empty courtroom. The Philadelphia Inquirer had a reporter there. NBC10 sent a blogger for its website. The AP stopped in, but the reporter told me that resources are thin and trial coverage is not gavel to gavel.

    An hour into afternoon testimony, Jon Hurdle of The New York Times showed up, and a few minutes later was gone.

    The lack of daily media coverage for the most sensational abortion trial angers pro-lifers who said there is a ?media black out? on the Gosnell trial.

    I asked one of the court staff why so few are interested.

    ?If you?re pro-choice, do you really want anybody to know about this,? he said, motioning to the filthy medical equipment set up in the courtroom.

    It?s a good point. As saturation coverage of the Sandy Hook elementary school coverage has caused Americans to reconsider the limits of the Second Amendment, saturation coverage of Kermit Gosnell?s clinic would likely cause the same reconsideration of abortion rights.

    The details are that horrifying.
    What I saw at the Gosnell trial - phillyburbs.com: J.D. Mullane

    Abortion Doctor Trial: Coverage of Kermit Gosnell Case Sparks Debate


    Grand Jury transcript: Warning very graphic
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    No. What political gain do you see coming out of downplaying it? Abortion is legal and under no legitimate threat, and downplaying it isn't going to keep it "more legal". This "doctors" actions were illegal, plain and simple.

    Why the downplay? First off it happened in Philly, we don't get a ton of national coverage. We had 331 homicides here last year, how many did you hear about? This got a TON of local coverage when it was originally unearthed, it was grizzly and horrifying.

    Secondly it was in a terribly poor and minority heavy part of the city. Comparing it to the Sandy hook is silly ~ as the "Dr" himself says in comparing the treatment of white people and black people "Sorry, but that's how it is". The fact that these babies were murdered or that this "clinic" could operate like this, in these conditions for YEARS without women reporting this beast in a terribly poor area of a minority heavy area of the city....or that minority women and babies were his victims....well, the national interest just isn't drawn like it is to the senseless murder of a bunch of rich white children by a rich white boy in a rich white town. Fact.

    THirdly there is no "senseless" draw like there is in Sandy Hook. These "mothers" were not taken captive in a "it rubs the lotion on its skin" sort of situation, which would have gotten the case more attention. THey walked into that clinic with the intention of having this "dr" murder their babies, and he did. Sick, yes, but again, no big hook for peoples attention.

    I'd be open to being convinced that this is a big "POLITICAL COVER UP!"..........but I don't get what the cover up is of. This guy was a criminal doing criminal things. He is going to go to jail. That is why he was arrested. No one is giving him high 5ers and saying "way to go! That is how abortion SHOULD BE buddy!". Hes a sicko who preyed on sick, impoverished women who obviously had their back to the wall is some way in order to do what they did. Sad and wrong and certainly not what ANY pro choice person would advocate for, ever. A tragedy, yes, but, I mean, what is there to really go into detail covering? Do YOU want to see photos every day? I don't. I don't need to see photos of babies in jars. If you are into it I'm sure you can find it, but I don't need or want to see that splashed across front pages for my kids to see. No thanks.
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    The downplay is because when people see the horror of even abortions that he did that were legal on babies less than 24 weeks they might think twice about wanting it to be legal. They don't have to splash pictures of aborted babies across the news to mention it. They mention other murder cases without showing graphic pictures of murdered victims. This is a deliberate effort by the media to keep this out of news.

    Let me state the obvious. This should be front page news. When Rush Limbaugh attacked Sandra Fluke, there was non-stop media hysteria. The venerable NBC Nightly News' Brian Williams intoned, "A firestorm of outrage from women after a crude tirade from Rush Limbaugh," as he teased a segment on the brouhaha. Yet, accusations of babies having their heads severed — a major human rights story if there ever was one — doesn't make the cut.

    You don't have to oppose abortion rights to find late-term abortion abhorrent or to find the Gosnell trial eminently newsworthy. This is not about being "pro-choice" or "pro-life." It's about basic human rights.

    The deafening silence of too much of the media, once a force for justice in America, is a disgrace.
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    In my experience, when there is a major tragedy it takes the major media coverage. If this case was happening at a different time, then I think it might get more coverage (Although I have seen plenty of articles about it come across my FB wall). The Boston bombings and the subsequent events have controlled the media. (Not saying that is a bad thing, just that it happened) Even the explosions in West, I had to dig to find the information I wanted about it. Not because it was not a big story, but because there was already a major story in the news.

    I remember this happening as a teenager when our house burnt down. It happened on the same day as an Earthquake in CA. On a different day it would have been a major story on the local news, but because of the other story it was barely mentioned (which we were happy about. We did not care to be in the news at that time).

    It is possible that even if there were not these other national stories, it still would not have gotten as much attention, but I tend to think it is more because there are so many other stories out there right now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GloriaInTX View Post
    The downplay is because when people see the horror of even abortions that he did that were legal on babies less than 24 weeks they might think twice about wanting it to be legal. They don't have to splash pictures of aborted babies across the news to mention it. They mention other murder cases without showing graphic pictures of murdered victims. This is a deliberate effort by the media to keep this out of news.



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    Well, if that were true you would be lobbying for gun control after sandy hook IMO. You aren't, so I disagree with your logic. This will no more make pro choice people turn anti choice than those murders made pro gun turn anti gun.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AlyssaEimers View Post
    In my experience, when there is a major tragedy it takes the major media coverage. If this case was happening at a different time, then I think it might get more coverage (Although I have seen plenty of articles about it come across my FB wall). The Boston bombings and the subsequent events have controlled the media. (Not saying that is a bad thing, just that it happened) Even the explosions in West, I had to dig to find the information I wanted about it. Not because it was not a big story, but because there was already a major story in the news.

    I remember this happening as a teenager when our house burnt down. It happened on the same day as an Earthquake in CA. On a different day it would have been a major story on the local news, but because of the other story it was barely mentioned (which we were happy about. We did not care to be in the news at that time).

    It is possible that even if there were not these other national stories, it still would not have gotten as much attention, but I tend to think it is more because there are so many other stories out there right now.
    That logic doesn't work because this trial was in session before either of those things happened and it wasn't covered. The day of court with empty media seats mentioned in the OP was 4/11/2013, the Thursday before the Boston bombing. And the explosion in West, TX was on the 17th, almost a whole week later.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Potter75 View Post
    Well, if that were true you would be lobbying for gun control after sandy hook IMO. You aren't, so I disagree with your logic. This will no more make pro choice people turn anti choice than those murders made pro gun turn anti gun.
    But the people in the middle could very well be swayed. The people that think abortion should be legal but think that even the 24 week cutoff is way too late since some of these babies could almost survive on their own, or the people that think abortions should only be legal only for the first trimester. The media did make some people who are pro gun want to ban what they called assault weapons because of the way it was covered. And it could very well sway some people who want some abortion to be legal but not late term or second trimester abortions.
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    If thats the case they will change their minds. As Bonita said, she's seen this case a lot in her news feed and you posted lots of links to national news stories about it- if a blackout was intended it appears to be wildly unsuccessful so your fears seem to be for naught?
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    I find the opposite. This makes me think of conditions in abortion clinics when it is not legal, and I find myself thinking that if these women had another place to go they would have, so maybe what is needed is better inspections, regulations, but certainly not making all abortions illegal. What he was doing was not legal, and I am asking why he was not being overseen by someone, and why he was not shut down earlier.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Potter75 View Post
    If thats the case they will change their minds. As Bonita said, she's seen this case a lot in her news feed and you posted lots of links to national news stories about it- if a blackout was intended it appears to be wildly unsuccessful so your fears seem to be for naught?
    They only started covering it AFTER they were reamed by that article in USA Today and finally public outrage that it wasn't being covered. The funny thing is that there was more coverage the day AFTER the Boston bombings than there had been the whole week before. So I guess the fact that other stories were more important doesn't really work, does it.

    Kermit Gosnell entered a Philadelphia courtroom on Monday where he is on trial for the murder of seven unborn children. He looked at the seating reserved for media and saw something he hadn't last week. Media. The big guns.

    The Bigs were shamed into appearing at the abortionist's trial after a stunning Twitter campaign that began Thursday night and swept through the weekend. A courtroom photo I snapped last week showing three rows of empty media seating, while grisly trial was in its fourth week, went viral.

    The new media rattled the old media, and the old responded by sending correspondents, at least for a day or two. The New York Times and The Washington Post were there. So was the AP and Reuters. In the row behind me was Kimberly Guilfoyle of Fox News.

    The new media uproar rattled the local old media, too. A reporter from the Philadelphia Daily News, a great tabloid whose lack of daily trial coverage mystifies, had a reporter there who said he didn't understand what all the fuss was about. The Philadelphia Inquirer, whose reporter has dutifully filed daily reports from the Gosnell trial, had company on Monday -- one of the Inky's pro-choice columnists. (Is there any other kind?)
    "Big Media" show up at the Gosnell trial - phillyburbs.com: J.D. Mullane
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