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    Should the court have the right to step in and make decisions about this woman over her adoptive parents who are her court-approved legal guardians?

    The case involves Elisa Bauer, a 32-year-old woman who is mentally and physically disabled due to fetal alcohol syndrome. Fetal alcohol syndrome develops when an expectant mother consumes alcohol during pregnancy. This can result in developmental issues for the child that lead to long-term health problems such as abnormal heart structure, behavioral problems, and/or mental retardation. Elisa suffers from epilepsy and is reported to have the mental and social capacity of a 6-year-old.

    Elisa was adopted at birth and has remained under court-approved legal guardianship of her adoptive parents, even though the decision was made for Elisa to live in a group home. Elisa has been known to leave the group home for hours or days at a time to engage in sexual activity with men at a local truck stop.

    Elisa is now 11 weeks pregnant. Washoe County Social Services has issued a request to have a local Court set a status hearing to evaluate the potential adverse effects that Elisa?s pregnancy could have on both Elisa and the unborn child. What is currently being suggested is that the Court should have the legal right not only to enforce an abortion of the unborn child but also to dictate that Elisa be sterilized involuntarily.

    There are six families who are waiting in line to adopt this child. Elisa?s adoptive family is willing to provide for her care during her pregnancy. Expert physicians who have been consulted have stated that although constant monitoring would be required during Elisa?s pregnancy, abortion is neither necessary nor prudent.
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    I basically think the adoptive family has relinquished their guardianship of the woman. They adopted her, yet then sent her to a group home? She has a history of leaving the home to engage in sex with strangers, and the adoptive family has done nothing? That doesn't indicate to me that they really give a damn about her. In this case, yes, I think the health and welfare of the woman trumps the legal rights of the adoptive family. Sterlization, I don't know if that's the answer. She's still at risk for a whole host of STDs. She should be in a care facility where she can't just walk away and roam the streets. She's got the mental capacity of a 6 y.o. for God's sake. The family and the system have completely failed this poor woman. A baby is not going to make anything better for her.
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    Sorry I don't think that a 32 year old woman living in a group home means her family abandoned her.
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    THis case reminds me of Terry Schiavo in Florida. Unfortunately, in this case time is off the essence and whatever decision that is made can not be reversed. Can the one side drag it out long enough to be past the abortion point?

    Has she been declared mentally incompetent? IMO, whoever was given POA at that time would be the one to make this decision for her since she has been declared unable to make it on her own.

    Very, very sad story.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GloriaInTX View Post
    Sorry I don't think that a 32 year old woman living in a group home means her family abandoned her.
    Would you feel the same way if it was the adoptive parents who wanted the abortion instead of the DSS?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ethanwinfield View Post
    Would you feel the same way if it was the adoptive parents who wanted the abortion instead of the DSS?
    Would I feel the same way about a group home not meaning her family abandoned her? Absolutely. I grew up with a girl with Down's syndrome and she lived in a group home after her mother died and she loved it. It gave her a chance to have a little independence while at the same time someone was there to watch over her. Having the mental capacity of a 6 year old doesn't mean she is stupid. I have a 6 year old right now and he is very independent and knows what he wants. If the Group home isn't secure than that is something they need to correct, but that isn't necessarily the parent's fault, we don't know that she is still living there now. In fact it is likely that she has moved back in with the adoptive parents because it said that they are caring for her for the pregnancy.

    Would I feel that the adoptive parents should make the decision? As long as the woman agrees with them, which in this case she does.

    We are talking about 2 lives here not just one. This baby already has a list of people waiting to adopt it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GloriaInTX View Post
    Sorry I don't think that a 32 year old woman living in a group home means her family abandoned her.
    When your mental capacity is that of a 6 year old then yes they abandoned her.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jessica80 View Post
    When your mental capacity is that of a 6 year old then yes they abandoned her.
    I think maybe you need to do some research on what group homes are.

    Here is a good article.

    http://forward.com/articles/134471/t...dults-parents/
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    I don't understand why the adoptive parents don't have legal decision-making authority over her? Why is the court even involved? I think the fact that her adoptive parents didn't put her in a more secure facility shows that they don't really have her best interest in mind. And the article doesn't say that the adoptive parents are caring for her; it says that they are willing to provide for her care during her pregnancy, which sounds to me like they are willing to pay to avoid any arguments about the pregnancy wasting taxpayers money.

    She's a 6-year-old living in an adult's body. I can't imagine trying to explain to a 6yo what would be happening to her body during the pregnancy, prepare her for giving birth, or why she wouldn't have "her baby" after the birth, in a way that she would really understand. What if she decided she wanted to keep the baby? I wouldn't do that to my 6yo daughter even if it was what she wanted. IMHO abortion is the best thing in this situation. I don't care how many adoptive families are lined up, continuing this pregnancy would be a horrible, horrible thing to do to this poor girl. I'm not a fan of sterilizing people who can't agree to it, but I'd definitely support giving her an IUD or implant along with much better supervision.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GloriaInTX View Post
    I think maybe you need to do some research on what group homes are.

    Here is a good article.

    To Care for Disabled Kids and Young Adults, Parents Increasingly Turn to Group Homes
    Please do not make assumptions on what I need to do research on. I am very familiar with group homes. Thank you.
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