I was just pointing out that it does not make sense that millions of abortions would be allowed each year on the basis that "Well they will do it anyway"when you have a zero tolerance of guns on the off chance that a mentally unstable person will use it in the wrong way. Those are two very contradicting polices.
Yes, schools and other public places need to up their security, but the answer is neither arming the teachers or banning all guns.
I don't get it. But up here we fight out battles with politics and referendums.
Try to imagine things from the point of view that a baby is a baby before it is born. That it is just as devastating when an unborn baby dies as when a little boy or girl dies. Would you not grieve just as hard as you have this week for the millions of babies that die every year? I understand that not everyone believe an unborn baby is a real live baby, but try to put yourself into the shoes as someone who does. I was trying to point out that either the excuse that people will do it anyway so we need to make it safe holds water or it doesn't. If you have to get a licence to buy a gun, the government knows who has a gun. Someone who really wants on will get one, one way or the other. If it legal, the government will know who was inquiring about buying a gun, can do a psyche evaluation, and can monitor the use of that gun. If it is bought off the street or from Mexico, the government has no idea even of its existence.
We can start somewhere in at least gaining control over these gun problems. The other day a man in a mall parking lot fired like 50 or 100 bullets in the air, (I forgot how many) and I remember thinking why should anyone have a gun that is that easy to fire that many bullets.
If we had taken Columbine seriously in 1999, we might have made some progress towards saving lives like these babies.
I am also not down with the paranoid thinking of we need to stockpile bullets, guns, and all sorts of crazy crp in case one day we have a civil war or we are invaded. I dont live my life in that dark way. And I certainly will not train my kids to be little militia men - just in case. It is just so bizarre that I camnot even express the radical and bizarre idea that that is, in its due.
That's not why they are legal. But sure I'll go with that, smoking, drinking, and pot are legal because people will do it anyway. Nonetheless, we have quite a few restrictions on drinking and smoking. You can't smoke on planes, indoors, within a certain distance from an entrance. You can't be served alcohol after 2 AM, or on Sunday, or in certain counties.Smoking and drinking are legal as is the push for pot because people will do it anyway, and that this way it can be made safe and regulated.
The difference between guns and any of the other things you mentioned is manufacturing. We can make our own alcohol, grow our own weed, and well, let's not go there with abortion.Why do you think banning all guns will make guns go away?
With guns, you can't just decide you want to make a gun. It takes a whole lot more than that.
How about gun deaths that aren't accidents? How are you counting abortion in the numbers?ETA - A ton more life is lost through Abortion, Drunk Driving, and accidental overdose than by gun accidents.
I am not in opposition to making regulations on guns, just on banning them all together.
It's not the only reason abortion is legal...not that abortion and gun control are really comparable at least to me. I will use that keeping abortion a safe medical procedure is in our society's best interest yes. I do not feel the need for assault weapons are necessary for our health and safety.
2- If you cc you are trained.. And I do think we should be able to choose.
3- Not everyone is ok with just taking off our shoes.. did you forget the HUGE stink people threw, are still throwing about airport security? OF course they argued they had the right to wear shoes... But that wasn't an amendment was it?
4- It is the 2nd amendment.. I didn't write it. Sorry you have a problem with it. And again it isn't an either or question.. Who isn't questioning the government? BOTH sides of every issue I see doing that!
DH-Aug 30th 1997 Josiah - 6/3/02 Isaac 7/31/03