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    Quote Originally Posted by GloriaInTX View Post
    Looks like there are plenty of teachers that are volunteering to protect themselves.

    200 Utah teachers take free firearms training class | Fox News
    I agree. That's plenty.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GloriaInTX View Post
    Strange the school district in the original article has had teachers with guns since 2007 and it hasn't happened there.
    By this logic, Gloria, we needn't change a thing. The vast vast vast majority of schools have no armed guards and have never had a madman open fire on students, so our current system is working, right?
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    Quote Originally Posted by GloriaInTX View Post
    Strange the school district in the original article has had teachers with guns since 2007 and it hasn't happened there.

    Given that there were 15 500 accidental shooting injuries in one year from having guns in homes it is logical that if schools become armed that there will be accidents. That is just the reality of guns - if they are there, someone at some point will accidentally shoot one. It is inevitable. And if the gun is in a place full of children then a child is probably the one who will be hurt or killed.

    "Every day approximately five children are injured or killed on a nationwide basis as a result of handguns. The primary cause of youth-involved shooting rests with the fact that children find loaded handguns in the home ? and natural curiosity leads them down the road to disaster."
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    "Many accidental shootings occur because someone believes a gun is unloaded, points it at someone and pulls the trigger as a ?joke.? "

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    We all know what natural curiosity can lead to with a group of kids. Or jokes. This is a recipe for disaster!

    And if the guns are safely stored and not loaded as a responsible gun owner would do, then what is the point of having it in the first place?
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    Here is an in school gun accident where it wasn't a joke or anything. A kid brings a gun to school and drops it and it fires hurting 3 people.

    BBC News - Students hurt in Los Angeles school shooting 'accident'

    So a teacher CCs at school and leans over a child who says "what's this" and grabs the gun and drops it...killing how many? Is this a scenario that is worth the risks? Not to me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by boilermaker View Post
    By this logic, Gloria, we needn't change a thing. The vast vast vast majority of schools have no armed guards and have never had a madman open fire on students, so our current system is working, right?
    If you consider that every mass shooting in history except one happened in a place that banned guns as working, than yes I guess our current system of banning guns is working. If you have no problem with it happening again than no we don't need to change a thing. Because it will happen again. I would rather my kids have a chance at survival if it happened at their school. If you are satisfied with how things are, then do nothing. If the next mass shooter has a choice between a school that bans guns and one where the teachers are possibly armed I know which one they will choose.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fuchsiasky View Post
    Here is an in school gun accident where it wasn't a joke or anything. A kid brings a gun to school and drops it and it fires hurting 3 people.

    BBC News - Students hurt in Los Angeles school shooting 'accident'

    So a teacher CCs at school and leans over a child who says "what's this" and grabs the gun and drops it...killing how many? Is this a scenario that is worth the risks? Not to me.
    Strange... banning guns in school didn't stop that from happening did it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by GloriaInTX View Post
    Strange... banning guns in school didn't stop that from happening did it?

    I'm confused. Is your point here that we should also allow students to freely bring guns to school as well?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Potter75 View Post
    I'm confused. Is your point here that we should also allow students to freely bring guns to school as well?
    No my point is that gun laws don't stop students from bringing in guns just like they don't stop criminals from using guns. If they decide to do it they will whether there is a law against it or not.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GloriaInTX View Post
    No my point is that gun laws don't stop students from bringing in guns just like they don't stop criminals from using guns. If they decide to do it they will whether there is a law against it or not.

    Well, then we totally agree that making guns almost impossible to get is the answer!
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    Quote Originally Posted by GloriaInTX View Post
    No my point is that gun laws don't stop students from bringing in guns just like they don't stop criminals from using guns. If they decide to do it they will whether there is a law against it or not.
    We still need laws. We can't just give up since people do illegal things. It's illegal to sell prescription drugs but people still steal them and sell them, should we just give up on prescriptions and make it a free-for-all?
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