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    Quote Originally Posted by GloriaInTX View Post
    No my point is that gun laws don't stop students from bringing in guns just like they don't stop criminals from using guns. If they decide to do it they will whether there is a law against it or not.
    So the solution is to just arm everyone? Maybe we should just give them to the kids too and then everyone is on equal ground.
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    Quote Originally Posted by boilermaker View Post
    By this logic, Gloria, we needn't change a thing. The vast vast vast majority of schools have no armed guards and have never had a madman open fire on students, so our current system is working, right?

    You consider 70 school shootings since 1994 our system working???

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    Quote Originally Posted by fuchsiasky View Post
    Here is an in school gun accident where it wasn't a joke or anything. A kid brings a gun to school and drops it and it fires hurting 3 people.

    BBC News - Students hurt in Los Angeles school shooting 'accident'

    So a teacher CCs at school and leans over a child who says "what's this" and grabs the gun and drops it...killing how many? Is this a scenario that is worth the risks? Not to me.

    If it's under there pant leg in a holster NO child would see it or know it was there. I don't think a teacher would be stupid enough to carry it where a student could see it, give them a little more credit then that please.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sapphire Sunsets View Post
    You consider 70 school shootings since 1994 our system working???
    I believe she was being sarcastic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sapphire Sunsets View Post
    If it's under there pant leg in a holster NO child would see it or know it was there. I don't think a teacher would be stupid enough to carry it where a student could see it, give them a little more credit then that please.
    People are given credit for safe gun use all the time. It hasn't stopped the accidents.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fuchsiasky View Post
    People are given credit for safe gun use all the time. It hasn't stopped the accidents.

    And the majority of those accidents are because people don't lock them up and little kids find them.

    Huge difference between a gun thats easy to find in a dresser drawer or closet compared to one thats concealed somewhere on the person.

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    I have kids that will fish around in my pockets looking for my phone to play their apps with so I don't give my kids credit to not get access to a concealed weapon on me. I assure you...they will find it.

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    I can't imagine how many unarmed inner city kids will start getting shot in school by teachers because a teacher felt "threatened". Better stop wearing those dang hoodies to school, boys.

    Not to mention, if there is a lockdown going on, I DON'T want my kids teacher playing peek a boo with his pantleg hidey gun and running out playing rambo while my kids sit there alone and unsafe and afraid. I want my kids classroom door locked from the inside by the teacher, my kids quickly escorted into closets or bathrooms or other safer or more interior rooms et while a calm, intelligent, leader of a teacher keeps them safe, WITHOUT a weapon out.
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    I still have to say that while I believe in a private citizen's right to own a gun and keep it safely locked up in their own home, I think it is a terrible idea to have the teachers bring guns to class.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Potter75 View Post
    I can't imagine how many unarmed inner city kids will start getting shot in school by teachers because a teacher felt "threatened". Better stop wearing those dang hoodies to school, boys.

    Not to mention, if there is a lockdown going on, I DON'T want my kids teacher playing peek a boo with his pantleg hidey gun and running out playing rambo while my kids sit there alone and unsafe and afraid. I want my kids classroom door locked from the inside by the teacher, my kids quickly escorted into closets or bathrooms or other safer or more interior rooms et while a calm, intelligent, leader of a teacher keeps them safe, WITHOUT a weapon out.

    Which worked out so well in Newtown.

    Leave them like sitting ducks, great plan!

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