Thread: The Guardian Plan

Yet another story of a school shooting that didn't happen.... because someone was there with a gun. Its funny how these stories never make national news.

Police officers kill gunman at Sullivan Central- Kingsport Times-News

Originally Posted by GloriaInTX

Yet another story of a school shooting that didn't happen.... because someone was there with a gun. Its funny how these stories never make national news.

Police officers kill gunman at Sullivan Central- Kingsport Times-News

I don't have a problem with police officers having guns (and even using them, under certain circumstances.) I'm against rando citizens playing Dirty Harry in schools.

Originally Posted by GloriaInTX

Yet another story of a school shooting that didn't happen.... because someone was there with a gun. Its funny how these stories never make national news.

Police officers kill gunman at Sullivan Central- Kingsport Times-News

i don't remember there being a debate about arming our police force?

Originally Posted by Potter75

i don't remember there being a debate about arming our police force?

That's weird I thought some people said the NRA was crazy for stating that there should be an armed guard at all schools?

Originally Posted by GloriaInTX

That's weird I thought some people said the NRA was crazy for stating that there should be an armed guard at all schools?

I don't remember anyone saying that armed police officers in schools is a problem. Most of our schools already have a Resource Officer (which is a full fledged police officer that works at the school every day) and I am fine with that. I was against having the teachers try to double as armed security, because that's a different thing (IMO) than having a fully trained police officer on staff. I take it for granted that the schools in this area have Resource Officers. They are often a really good influence on the kids, actually, because they are positive roll models that actually develop relationships with the kids and are a stable presence in the kid's lives kind of like teachers and Admin.

I also thought this was about teachers carrying weapons ("The Guardian Plan").

When I read the article I thought it had more to do with workplace violence than school violence. Since the gunman's brother worked there, my initial thought is that it wouldn't have mattered if it was a school, a dentist office, or a McDonald's. I could be wrong, though.

I think I was one who expressed concern at the thought that it would feel like a jail even if it was just a cop or armed guard. I know that it is just because I'm not familiar with it in my tiny town and I admit that.

I was NOT on board ever with teachers carrying.

Originally Posted by Alissa_Sal

I don't remember anyone saying that armed police officers in schools is a problem. Most of our schools already have a Resource Officer (which is a full fledged police officer that works at the school every day) and I am fine with that. I was against having the teachers try to double as armed security, because that's a different thing (IMO) than having a fully trained police officer on staff. I take it for granted that the schools in this area have Resource Officers. They are often a really good influence on the kids, actually, because they are positive roll models that actually develop relationships with the kids and are a stable presence in the kid's lives kind of like teachers and Admin.

Somewhere back in the 42 pages there was discussion on this. The whole debate has taken so many twists and turns it is hard to keep it all straight.

Originally Posted by Alissa_Sal

I don't remember anyone saying that armed police officers in schools is a problem. Most of our schools already have a Resource Officer (which is a full fledged police officer that works at the school every day) and I am fine with that. I was against having the teachers try to double as armed security, because that's a different thing (IMO) than having a fully trained police officer on staff. I take it for granted that the schools in this area have Resource Officers. They are often a really good influence on the kids, actually, because they are positive roll models that actually develop relationships with the kids and are a stable presence in the kid's lives kind of like teachers and Admin.

Our district has (i believe?, i'll have to dbl check this) only ONE resource officer that goes to all the schools. We have 6 schools here (3 elementary (K-3) , 1 middle (4-6), 1 junior high (7-8 ) and 1 high school. Out of all of them there are only 2 that are near each other. They can't be in every school every second. What happens (god forbid) if some shooter does decide to take out one of them that the resource officer isn't at? It's going to be the same exact situation as Sandy Hook. This is why something drastic has to be done. The teachers and volunteers wouldn't even have to pay for the training. There are more then enough places that are willing to give the training for free to people who are serious about keeping our children safe and right now that needs to be our top priority. Congress and Senate aren't going to do anything about gun control or laws until they deal with all the debt and crap they already have on the table until at least March. You really wanna go 2.5 months and see how many more shootings (or attempted) happen?

Originally Posted by GloriaInTX

Yet another story of a school shooting that didn't happen.... because someone was there with a gun. Its funny how these stories never make national news.

Police officers kill gunman at Sullivan Central- Kingsport Times-News

even funnier.

A decade ago, Cowan was arrested after going into the Kingsport Police Department with a loaded .380-caliber tucked into his waistband.
According to court records, Officer David Quillin, now a deputy chief, reported that Cowan entered and asked to speak with him and another officer. It was allegedly about, "a problem that has been discussed with him several times in the past."
Quillin states that as they talked, Cowan informed him that he had a loaded handgun in his possession, and no concealed weapons permit. A subsequent pat-down discovered the weapon.
Cowan ultimately pleaded guilty to going armed and received a sentence of 11 months and 29 days, with all but two days suspended in favor of probation. The judge ordered Cowan to undergo a mental health evaluation and complete any recommended treatment.

He had a gun how? Why the hell did they only make him serve 2 days for bringing a loaded gun to the police station (with no concealed weapon permit btw!) ?