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    I agree that lockdrown drills are a good thing and help prepare kids for an emergency situation without probably frightening them. I don't remember bomb drills, but we had fire drills and tornado drills, and I never really worried that either was going to happen as a kid. If anything it was an interesting diversion from Social Studies or whatever.

    I also wanted to say that I assume that even in a world where teachers carry heat, they would still put the kids on lockdown in the event that a shooter came into the school (you wouldn't want students wandering the halls while a gunman and teachers are trading shots, right?) so lockdown drills would still be a neccesity in a world where people bring guns into schools. Arming teachers presumably wouldn't change that.
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    We had plenty of drills when I was growing up. We also had some legitimate scares as well. I felt safer knowing that my schools had a plan and the teachers and staff as well as my classmates were aware of what to do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rivergallery View Post
    I think it is was an overly dramatized statement, but could have been made true, if she said OFTEN those who are raped are never the same again. Or OFTEN traumatic events change us as people, sometimes for better sometimes worse, sometimes just different.
    Thanks for monday morning quarterbacking a dead horse, but yeah, of course if she had made a different statement it might not have been offensive. She didn't say that, however......and the best way to remediate an offensive or incorrect statement is with a simple "I'm sorry". Especially when one is straight up told "I'm hurt and offended by your statement". Its pretty simple. But at Alyssa's request and against my own wishes, I will let it go. I wish you had done that too.

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    Melissa - I am sorry if you were hurt by anything I said. As I previously mentioned, that was never my intent.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Potter75 View Post
    Thanks for monday morning quarterbacking a dead horse, but yeah, of course if she had made a different statement it might not have been offensive. She didn't say that, however......and the best way to remediate an offensive or incorrect statement is with a simple "I'm sorry". Especially when one is straight up told "I'm hurt and offended by your statement". Its pretty simple. But at Alyssa's request and against my own wishes, I will let it go. I wish you had done that too.
    hmm. Just quoting to save for posterity and to refer to the next time you say something offensive and incorrect.

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    Thanks Bonita, I truly appreciate that. I wasn't speaking up to be a jerk ~ but because I think that it's important for anyone who has overcome anything (be it rape, miscarriages, cancer, abuse etc) to speak up when we see misconceptions stated as fact about survivors. Otherwise what's the point of overcoming ~ if we don't let other people know that it's possible to overcome things we aren't giving hope to other people who may need it. Anyway, thanks. And Lillie, you don't have to quote anything, if you need me to show you how to use the search functionality, I would be happy to, its easy. Everything is seachable without being quoted.

    Back to arming our nations teachers! Driving home just now I heard a nutjob professor has a conspiracy theory that is gaining enough traction that it appeared on CNN tonight? Apparently the gun lovers are now launching conspiracy theories and Sandy Hook was actually just a Government led fake out and didn't really happen? This is all part of a platform to launch a national discussion to disarm our nation, ultimately leading to some sort of takeover of the populace, according to some?

    Reminded me of some of you guys! Thats probably another debate, though.

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    I think drills are good in that they help organize the kids and help keep them calm and follow orders when the time comes. But I do not think the drills nor locked doors saved any children in the case of this last school shooting. What did save the one kindergartener girl that was the only one of her class not killed? She played dead... wonder why she did it, who taught her it, or if she just did it on her own.

    I would like most parents to have a PLAN for negative things.. I talk to my boys about things and what to do if.. XYZ happens. I think it is not a culture of fear to have a plan either.
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    Hmmm... well it doesn't take a government takeover to have a need for protection.

    Just take a look at these pictures
    Los Angeles LA Riots - Then & Now

    or a natural disaster can do it...
    http://www.nytimes.com/2010/08/27/us...anted=all&_r=0

    But I guess none of those things could ever happen again, right?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Potter75 View Post
    Thanks Bonita, I truly appreciate that. I wasn't speaking up to be a jerk ~ but because I think that it's important for anyone who has overcome anything (be it rape, miscarriages, cancer, abuse etc) to speak up when we see misconceptions stated as fact about survivors. Otherwise what's the point of overcoming ~ if we don't let other people know that it's possible to overcome things we aren't giving hope to other people who may need it. Anyway, thanks. And Lillie, you don't have to quote anything, if you need me to show you how to use the search functionality, I would be happy to, its easy. Everything is seachable without being quoted.

    Back to arming our nations teachers! Driving home just now I heard a nutjob professor has a conspiracy theory that is gaining enough traction that it appeared on CNN tonight? Apparently the gun lovers are now launching conspiracy theories and Sandy Hook was actually just a Government led fake out and didn't really happen? This is all part of a platform to launch a national discussion to disarm our nation, ultimately leading to some sort of takeover of the populace, according to some?

    Reminded me of some of you guys! Thats probably another debate, though.
    There are whackos everywhere. But I do not think the idea that the government may want to disarm the populous is a conspiracy theory, it has happened in other countries, why not here? Some people think it may never happen, I think, it is possible, and wrong. I do know Obama has been talking about pushing through gun control legislation without congress approval, not sure if it will happen or not. I never know with him... he said my taxes wouldn't go up either... rofl
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