A simple "Lillie you are way out of line" always works.
Because she is.
Lillie, why are you so angry lately?
Mom to Lee, Jake, Brandon, Rocco
Stepmom to Ryan, Regan, Braden, Baley
Granddaughters Kylie 10/18/2010 & Aleya 4/22/2013
I never consider a difference of opinion in politics, in religion, in philosopy, as a cause for withdrawing from a friend. --Thomas Jefferson
”The beauty of the Second Amendment is that it will not be needed until they try to take it.”
”Any single man must judge for himself whether circumstances warrant obedience or resistance to the commands of the civil magistrate; we are all qualified, entitled, and morally obliged to evaluate the conduct of our rulers. This political judgment, moreover, is not simply or primarily a right, but like self-preservation, a duty to God. As such it is a judgment that men cannot part with according to the God of Nature. It is the first and foremost of our inalienable rights without which we can preserve no other.”
Or maybe you would rather have these two -
”Germans who wish to use firearms should join the SS or the SA - ordinary citizens don’t need guns, as their having guns doesn’t serve the State.”
This year will go down in history. For the first time, a civilized nation has full gun registration. Our streets will be safer, our police more efficient, and the world will follow our lead into the future!” ~Adolph Hitler, 1935, on The Weapons Act of **** Germany
”The most foolish mistake we could possibly make would be to allow the subjected people to carry arms. History shows that all conquerors who have allowed their subjected peoples to carry arms have prepared their own downfall by so doing. Indeed, I would go so far as to say that the underdog is a sine qua non ["something essential" lit. "without which not"] for the overthrow of any sovereignty. So let’s not have any native militia or police.”
DH-Aug 30th 1997 Josiah - 6/3/02 Isaac 7/31/03
I have asked everyone repeatedly to stay civil, stay on topic, stop with the name calling, et cetera. To those that are trying to debate, I apologize that I've been ineffective to maintaining civility on this thread (and others.)
I'm locking this thread until Admin has a chance to look at it. I will leave the Hobby Lobby thread open for now, but if we continue in the vein of people insulting each other and me being unable to stop them, then I will have to lock that thread as well.
My apologies again to those who actually want to debate this topic. I will work with Admin to review the thread and consider re-opening if they think there is a chance of resuming a civil debate.
-Alissa, mom to Tristan (5) and Reid (the baby!)
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