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    Quote Originally Posted by GloriaInTX View Post
    Then I guess you wouldn't need it at your school. Most schools don't have an officer there all the time. Strange how everyone thinks that the NRA is stupid because they want one at every school.
    Can I ask you a question? Are you personally willing to have your taxes raised to pay the salary of an officer at every school in the nation at all times? How much of an increase are you willing to accept?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ethanwinfield View Post
    Can I ask you a question? Are you personally willing to have your taxes raised to pay the salary of an officer at every school in the nation at all times? How much of an increase are you willing to accept?
    Seriously with all the other things we waste tax money on I don't think it should be an issue. I could find a thousand things we could cut to pay for an officer's salary. And if not absolutely would I pay the tiny bit extra it would cost spread out over all the property owners in the district. How do they pay for the officer that is stationed at your school? It sounds like you thought he had good reason to be there. I guess if money is an issue that we could go back to the plan of letting the teachers CC, I have no problem with that plan either.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ethanwinfield View Post
    Can I ask you a question? Are you personally willing to have your taxes raised to pay the salary of an officer at every school in the nation at all times? How much of an increase are you willing to accept?
    The school DH works at already has an officer there. He is half paid for by the school district and half paid for by the police department. The taxes here are considerably less than the taxes to the school that I went to growing up that does not have an officer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GloriaInTX View Post
    Seriously with all the other things we waste tax money on I don't think it should be an issue. I could find a thousand things we could cut to pay for an officer's salary. And if not absolutely would I pay the tiny bit extra it would cost spread out over all the property owners in the district. How do they pay for the officer that is stationed at your school? It sounds like you thought he had good reason to be there. I guess if money is an issue that we could go back to the plan of letting the teachers CC, I have no problem with that plan either.
    He is paid via the sheriff dept. It's actually really helpful in cutting down on some of the crime in the area. All of the intermediate and high schools have at least one deputy (some of them are shared). The deputies get to know the students and can deter crime and solve the crimes the students do commit. They also go to their houses for truancy violations, cite them for various things, etc. It isn't just to look scary standing at the entrance.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ethanwinfield View Post
    He is paid via the sheriff dept. It's actually really helpful in cutting down on some of the crime in the area. All of the intermediate and high schools have at least one deputy (some of them are shared). The deputies get to know the students and can deter crime and solve the crimes the students do commit. They also go to their houses for truancy violations, cite them for various things, etc. It isn't just to look scary standing at the entrance.
    My high school (and I think my middle school) had a police officer at all times as well. It was great and a lot of the students formed a friendly relationship with him. He was a positive influence.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ethanwinfield View Post
    Can I ask you a question? Are you personally willing to have your taxes raised to pay the salary of an officer at every school in the nation at all times? How much of an increase are you willing to accept?
    I know you are not asking me, but this is one issue I would be more then willing to pay more taxes for. All of the schools that I know of that have police officers on campus are more safe overall (and the kids seem to love it) The school that Dh teaches at is in a VERY low socioeconomic area that does not even have a police district in town. It has so many crime issues that DH spends a large part of his day playing cop. It is on the next school board agenda to start budgeting for an officer on campus and Dh is very happy
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    Quote Originally Posted by mommytoMR.FACE View Post
    My high school (and I think my middle school) had a police officer at all times as well. It was great and a lot of the students formed a friendly relationship with him. He was a positive influence.
    I have heard this from everyone that has had a campus officer. I also think this can help (with the right cop) to forge positive relationships with police that a lot of kids will never have, which could lead to more trust.
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    The criminals agree. This online list is a win win for them.

    Reformed crooks say the New York newspaper that published a map of names and addresses of gun owners did a great service – to their old cronies in the burglary trade.

    The information published online by the Journal-News, a daily paper serving the New York suburbs of Westchester, Rockland and Putnam counties, could be highly useful to thieves in two ways, former burglars told FoxNews.com. Crooks looking to avoid getting shot now know which targets are soft and those who need weapons know where they can steal them.

    “That was the most asinine article I’ve ever seen,” said Walter T. Shaw, 65, a former burglar and jewel thief who the FBI blames for more than 3,000 break-ins that netted some $70 million in the 1960s and 1970s. “Having a list of who has a gun is like gold - why rob that house when you can hit the one next door, where there are no guns?

    "What they did was insanity," added Shaw, author of "License to Steal," a book about his criminal career.
    “They just created an opportunity for some crimes to be committed and I think it’s exceptionally stupid,” said Bob Portenier, 65, a former burglar and armed house robber turned crime prevention consultant.

    Professional burglars are always looking for an edge, and like most folks, they read the paper, said Portenier.

    “Criminals are always looking for opportunity and words travels through the grapevine—burglars trade secrets and when you see something like that in the paper, that’s is something burglar’s are going to talk about,” Portenier said. “‘Did you see in the paper where all these people have guns and their addresses?’ and that kind of stuff, they’ll say.”

    While some burglars may use the newspaper’s information to avoid guns, Portenier said others will target homes with guns. The newspaper’s decision could even lead to legally-owned guns proliferating on the street, he said.

    “That’s one of the first things we’d check out—guns are on the top of the list of what you want to steal,” he said. “They can walk out with a shotgun and a couple of handguns and sell them on the street for $300 or $400 a pop. They can sell them to a gangbanger who ends up killing someone.”

    “When I first saw that story it kinda freaked me out. If I had a gun if I was a registered legal gun owner and had my information in there I’d be outraged.
    Read more: Ex-Burglars Say Newspaper
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    And before someone says that the homeowners should have their guns in a gun safe.... my ex had his guns stolen and they just took the whole gun safe.
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    “When I first saw that story it kinda freaked me out. If I had a gun if I was a registered legal gun owner and had my information in there I’d be outraged.
    I wonder if they would have been equally outraged to register this theoretical gun......you know, since it's public record and all.

    Having all of his guns stolen from his home must have been really embarrassing for your Ex, wasn't he a policeman? Did he not go through all that rigamarole that you said policemen went through to hide where he lived so that exact scenario couldn't happen, or what? I guess it goes to show that simply owning guns is enough of a liability to having them stolen, even for a professional like a policeman. Perhaps it would be better if guns had to be locked up at central registers, like in some other countries, instead of in individual homes. Might prevent criminals from getting them.

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