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    Quote Originally Posted by ethanwinfield View Post
    I thought the current position is that we need MORE law-abiding citizens with guns. Look at all those little dots in such a small area - I know I'll feel safe living there.

    People's names and addresses already are a matter of public record. If an abuser had been unsuccessful in finding his victim until this interactive map, now he knows she's armed and ready.
    NO everyone's name and address are not a matter of public record, unless you are a homeowner. And you have to actually request the information on gun owners through the Freedom of Information Act so I don't think many criminals are going to do that now ... its not like you can just go to the library and look it up. Except now since this newspaper has posted a map online they can just use an interactive map to zero in on the addresses. I don't see how that can not make you a little uncomfortable that they are posting people's names and addresses online. Law enforcement officers go through a lot of trouble to keep their names unlisted and out of phone books to protect their families from some criminal that has a vendetta against them for arresting them. Now those officer's addresses are posted on an interactive map for all the world to see and you have no problem with that?
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    Quote Originally Posted by GloriaInTX View Post
    NO everyone's name and address are not a matter of public record, unless you are a homeowner. And you have to actually request the information on gun owners through the Freedom of Information Act so I don't think many criminals are going to do that now ... its not like you can just go to the library and look it up. Except now since this newspaper has posted a map online they can just use an interactive map to zero in on the addresses. I don't see how that can not make you a little uncomfortable that they are posting people's names and addresses online. Law enforcement officers go through a lot of trouble to keep their names unlisted and out of phone books to protect their families from some criminal that has a vendetta against them for arresting them. Now those officer's addresses are posted on an interactive map for all the world to see and you have no problem with that?
    Do law officers not buy homes?

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    Yes, I don't necessarily agree that they publish teacher's and anyone who works for the town salaries as a main article. I do think, just like gun ownership, that it should be a matter of public record. If I want to know what Mrs. Smith makes teaching high school history I should be able to find out how my tax dollars are broken down. I think it is very important in cases of tax override votes. If I knew that substitute teachers were making over 100,000 (yes I know that is not happening just an example) I am not going to vote for more money to go to the school since money is being mismanaged. I just don't agree with it being a list plastered over the paper.

    Even home foreclosures are stuck in the back of the paper...why is this not?

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    Quote Originally Posted by GloriaInTX View Post
    NO everyone's name and address are not a matter of public record, unless you are a homeowner. And you have to actually request the information on gun owners through the Freedom of Information Act so I don't think many criminals are going to do that now ... its not like you can just go to the library and look it up. Except now since this newspaper has posted a map online they can just use an interactive map to zero in on the addresses. I don't see how that can not make you a little uncomfortable that they are posting people's names and addresses online. Law enforcement officers go through a lot of trouble to keep their names unlisted and out of phone books to protect their families from some criminal that has a vendetta against them for arresting them. Now those officer's addresses are posted on an interactive map for all the world to see and you have no problem with that?
    Does it say which ones are officers though?

    I guess if you knew a specific officer's name, you could find it that way, but you could do the same if they are a home owner. My county has a free online public records search where you literally just put in a person's name and you can find all of the public documents that are associated with their name, including marriage records, property records, et cetera. So I'm assuming that if someone had a thing against a cop and they were a home owner, they could get the info that way easily enough. It doesn't have to be through gun records.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GloriaInTX View Post
    NO everyone's name and address are not a matter of public record, unless you are a homeowner.
    Well, I've never had any problem looking it up. I had an issue with some neighbors a year ago. Looked up the house, saw who the oweners are as well as the name of the tenant. I've used other online white pages, reverse look up, etc. and never had any trouble finding exactly what I was looking for.

    And you have to actually request the information on gun owners through the Freedom of Information Act so I don't think many criminals are going to do that now ... its not like you can just go to the library and look it up. Except now since this newspaper has posted a map online they can just use an interactive map to zero in on the addresses. I don't see how that can not make you a little uncomfortable that they are posting people's names and addresses online.
    I guess it doesn't make me uncomfortable that they are posting people's names and addresses online because my name and address are already out there. It's public record. You can also look up my teaching credentials and studio teacher license online by my name if you want.

    Why would law-abiding gun owners have a problem with people knowing they own guns? Isn't that the point? The only thing that can stop a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun. Now we know who all the good guys with guns are.

    Law enforcement officers go through a lot of trouble to keep their names unlisted and out of phone books to protect their families from some criminal that has a vendetta against them for arresting them. Now those officer's addresses are posted on an interactive map for all the world to see and you have no problem with that?
    One is not a result of the other. I have a very good friend in law enforcement. Had no trouble looking up his name and address. (How much he paid for his old home, sold it for, and how much he paid in taxes. LOL) My cousin's husband is in LE. The only crime they have been victims of has to do with their neighborhood; not his career choice.

    The map I saw was a bunch of dots that if I clicked on would then give me the name and address. Is there somewhere I can type in the name to see if that person owns a gun and where they live? If not, it would be easier for me to track down someone's address in a different way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jessica80 View Post
    Yes, I don't necessarily agree that they publish teacher's and anyone who works for the town salaries as a main article. I do think, just like gun ownership, that it should be a matter of public record. If I want to know what Mrs. Smith makes teaching high school history I should be able to find out how my tax dollars are broken down. I think it is very important in cases of tax override votes. If I knew that substitute teachers were making over 100,000 (yes I know that is not happening just an example) I am not going to vote for more money to go to the school since money is being mismanaged. I just don't agree with it being a list plastered over the paper.

    Even home foreclosures are stuck in the back of the paper...why is this not?
    Ours isn't always buried. Once in a while it will be on the front page when they compare the different school districts, zip codes, home sales, forclosures, etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Potter75 View Post
    Do law officers not buy homes?
    Even homeowners names and addresses are not published online for all the world to look up on an interactive map. You would have to go look up the tax records.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ethanwinfield View Post
    Ours isn't always buried. Once in a while it will be on the front page when they compare the different school districts, zip codes, home sales, forclosures, etc.
    I have never seen a listing of names of people foreclosed on that is on the front page. There may be an article about the rate going up or down but not that so and so was foreclosed on. If they are going through foreclosure proceedings then it is in the back of the paper along with probate things etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GloriaInTX View Post
    Even homeowners names and addresses are not published online for all the world to look up on an interactive map. You would have to go look up the tax records.
    You aren't going to the right websites then.
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    ethanwindfield, are you being purposefully obtuse? It is a widely different situation for people to go and look directly for information about home ownership and to have peoples names and addresses published in a newspaper article. I think it is pretty silly to try to compare the two


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