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    My real question to the newspaper would be why? What do you expect people to do with this information?
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    Yeah I can't understand why someone felt the desire to do this but I think it's public information anyway. There is no expectation of privacy.

    Gloria, everything about you or your family (and all of us) is on the internet if someone can put a couple of pieces of info together they can find out everything. There is no privacy in this world.

    The only reason I could see someone getting worried would be the reasoning behind collecting and distributing this kind of information. Maybe people feel they would be a target of...non gun violence? Or that somehow they'd be ostracized by their neighborhood for owning a gun, for contributing to the unsafety? I'm not really sure what the people are thinking so I'm trying to figure that out. If it's to incite harm or something then I'd be against that but other than that it's just like any other public record.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mom3girls View Post
    My real question to the newspaper would be why? What do you expect people to do with this information?
    The answer is, why not? Everyone is talking about guns right now -- gun safety, whether to legalize or ban concealed carry, whether to restrict assault weapons, arming teachers -- and this is something that is going to stir up the conversation on every side of the issue and in every way. It's not up to the newspaper to decide how people will use this information; its only obligation is to print what it thinks its public wants to know. I might use this information to decide I don't want to let my kids stay the night with someone who has told me they don't own guns but I see them listed, or I might at least open the dialogue again. You might use this information in another way, and Gloria might use it in a completely different way than either of us. It's public information, there is no right to privacy on this issue, and I have no problem with it being published.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Spacers View Post
    The answer is, why not? Everyone is talking about guns right now -- gun safety, whether to legalize or ban concealed carry, whether to restrict assault weapons, arming teachers -- and this is something that is going to stir up the conversation on every side of the issue and in every way. It's not up to the newspaper to decide how people will use this information; its only obligation is to print what it thinks its public wants to know. I might use this information to decide I don't want to let my kids stay the night with someone who has told me they don't own guns but I see them listed, or I might at least open the dialogue again. You might use this information in another way, and Gloria might use it in a completely different way than either of us. It's public information, there is no right to privacy on this issue, and I have no problem with it being published.
    I have no problem with it being available, but published in a local newspaper? I just think that's creepy, it's meant to be a violation of some kind. I don't like the idea of newspapers deciding to publish that type of information in a way that everybody's going to see it. It IS different from just being available to those who seek it.

    You can find out what taxes I paid on my property if you dig for it, but do I want my local newspaper publishing a list of what I paid in property taxes last year for all my neighbors to read? I don't like it.

    And I don't think a newspaper's only obligation is to print what the editors think the public wants to know. . .one has to use judgment in such things.

    This is a weird analogy, but I'm going to go for it. When I was in 7th grade, my science & math teacher used to hand graded tests back one at a time, calling each student's name, in order of highest grade to lowest. I hated it. I was a strong student and was usually at or near the top (before my high school rebel phase), but I HATED that, I felt it was nobody's business but mine and the teacher's. It had nothing to do with the rest of the students. The kids with the low grades and the high grades hated it, the kids in the middle were less bothered by it.

    In this case I just think it's something of an invasion of privacy, even though the information is findable elsewhere. I also do think it's dangerous for the people who don't have guns to have THAT information put out there. I'm happy I'm not a gun owner and I don't care who knows it on an individual level, but it's not like I put a sign outside saying NO GUNS HERE!

    I think it's weird. Not horrible, but weird and inappropriate.
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    I disagree Stacie. I do not believe that newspapers can choose to report stories like this, as this is not an actual story. Plus the "story" leaves a lot of information out making it just very bad reporting. A good story out of this would be a list of homes that have registered guns and then a list of homes with illegal weapons.
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    Laurie, I think your analogy is great. I have no issue with people knowing we have guns, we knew it would be public record when we got the guns.
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    Agreed (not the part about owning guns) about being okay with things being public and not being okay with your info just splashed out there willy nilly.

    Okay with a foreclosure having a notice in the paper...not okay with my name, address, etc on the front page as a news article (intention=shaming)
    Okay with the fact that you can track where I have lived....not okay with the local paper listing my residential history as a news article.

    Stacey~do you really think it is okay to do this? What makes this guy different than the paparazzi? They are vultures and get paid because people buy US Weekly and read TMZ. It doesn't make it okay. I DO expect better from a news publication.

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    A little late to this. I can see both sides of this. DH's salary is public record. That is a little different than it being posted on the front page of the local newspaper. However, it is not something I am going to loose sleep over.

    The part that does bother me about this like many others said was the intent. NY and CT are not that far apart I can see someone who is besides themselves with grief, misplacing there grief and going to the people on this place and vandalising or harming the people on the list. Someone who feels passionately against guns going to each house on the list and leaving signs or bothering the people in some way.

    I also do not think gun owners should be treated like criminals. Just owning a gun is not against the law.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spacers View Post
    The answer is, why not? Everyone is talking about guns right now -- gun safety, whether to legalize or ban concealed carry, whether to restrict assault weapons, arming teachers -- and this is something that is going to stir up the conversation on every side of the issue and in every way. It's not up to the newspaper to decide how people will use this information; its only obligation is to print what it thinks its public wants to know. I might use this information to decide I don't want to let my kids stay the night with someone who has told me they don't own guns but I see them listed, or I might at least open the dialogue again. You might use this information in another way, and Gloria might use it in a completely different way than either of us. It's public information, there is no right to privacy on this issue, and I have no problem with it being published.
    I don't really have a problem that it's public. I do feel like Laurie, that it is creepy. I also can't imagine having friends who say they don't have guns but really do. I know my friends much better than this - ESP the ones my kids might go over to their house. I don't feel the need to cross check gun lists to see if it they might have lied about having guns. If I do, then I won't even bother with them.

    I do think there is a degree of responsibility the media should hold in order to keep basic civil rest. I would have categorized this as one of those - at least that something to be thought over manifold. Emotions are high right now. I think it would behoove everyone to remain as calm, conservative in expression, and respectful as possible. I don't think picking at each other is a good thing to do. People tend to not think as clearly during times like these. So I think the media should have exerted more respect and not published the list not out of requirement but out of decency.

    Besides, even if someone isn't on the list it doesn't even mean much except that they don't legally have guns. Those people are definitely out there. I watched on ABC about a survivor guy from Virginia Tech who goes around showing how easy it is to buy guns at gun shows without even a driving license, not just pistols or something but we're talking assault weapons. No checks at all or Driving License needed. You can watch him buy one at a gun show:

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