I'd rather there be regulations on how you get guns and who can have them, where you can actually take them to and how, then telling people they can't keep them or use them on their private property. I mean....even when we hunt, its on private property so I don't even see how something like this is feasible.
I think that the swimming pool thing is a tough comparison to make with a straight face.
Two thoughts~ it is hard for me to compare the deaths of 687 people over 4 years to the, what was it, like 31,000 gun deaths in the US in JUST 2012?Quote:
Methods. We obtained data about drowning deaths in the United States (1995?1998) from death certificates, medical examiner reports, and newspaper clippings collected by the US Consumer Product Safety Commission.
Results. During the study period, 678 US residents aged 5 to 24 years drowned in pools. Seventy-five percent were male, 47% were Black, 33% were White, and 12% were Hispanic. Drowning rates were highest among Black males, and this increased risk persisted after we controlled for income. The majority of Black victims (51%) drowned in public pools, the majority of White victims (55%) drowned in residential pools, and the majority of Hispanic victims (35%) drowned in neighborhood pools (e.g., an apartment complex pool). Foreign-born males also had an increased risk for drowning compared with American-born males.
Conclusions. Targeted interventions are needed to reduce the incidence of swimming pool drownings across racial/ethnic groups, particularly adult supervision at public pools.
Secondly I don't see the data being all that compelling that its residential pools that are the problem, certainly not for black people, BARELY so for white people, and hispanics seem to die in apartment pools. Soooooo, yeah, I could see more of an argument for banning ALL pools than just banning residential ones, really. And if people wanted to ban ALL guns without trying to figure out a way (like gun storage clubs for sport etc) where background checked people could check out their own guns when they plan to hunt/fish etc then yes,well, I think that that would be as illogical as banning all pools. But when a crazy person can steal their mothers Semi automatic, or Glorias POLICE OFFICER husband can have all of his guns stolen from his house, when young babies are shooting one another to death with guns.....yes, there is a problem with how guns are handled and controlled in this country. Fact.
In 2015 they predict that more Americans will die from gun violence than from driving. Could that possibly be related to all of the regulation surrounding seatbelts, carseats, crash test safety ratings, and crackdown on what people can do in their home (drink) before they drive? I think so. Why is it sooooooo crazy to ask for the same surrounding guns? Wasn't gloria or someone saying that a car was a weapon on the walmart shooting debate? We regulate the heck out of that weapon, why can't we regulate guns much the same way?
And really, at the end of the day, other countries have done it. We just aren't THAT much more backward that we couldn't figure this out like the rest of the civilized world, are we?. The rate that Americans are killing Americans is downright shameful, so, yeah, I'm okay with understanding why someone who lives in a country where they have a minute number of gun related deaths looks at us like Minx in the OP and says " I just don't get it". I don't either. That is what I was replying to , more than the actual news story, sorry if I wasn't clear.
Oh-right-but I don't want my husband or I (or tens of thousands of adults i dont know. TENs OF THOUSANDS) to die from some wack job with a gun either. Super selfish like that. If you want to ban pools I will sign the petition or else require that only children who have had swimming lessons or pass a proficiency test can swim in public pools. There are already mad safety regs where I live involving private pools- if bad parents fail their kids I guess we just say it isn't pools that kill people it's people who kill people and agree?
Hey 15600 was a HUGE OMG number to you on the last debate. If 31000 in this one is no big sweat I get it. Double the number of actual people vs fetuses. Dead. But you don't care at all. That's cool. Anyway I'm celebrating the faux holiday of 5 may so I will have to catch you ttomorrow.