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    Quote Originally Posted by Rivergallery View Post
    For the people I know that hunt they do NOT do it for sport they do it for food. I do not think it is horrid at all. However.. they also couldn't afford this technology.
    You didn't answer the question. Do you support this gun being made available to the public, many of whom could afford this gun, unlike your friends?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Potter75 View Post
    You didn't answer the question. Do you support this gun being made available to the public, many of whom could afford this gun, unlike your friends?
    Why not? I don't see anything in the Bill of Rights stating what type of guns the populous can own.
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    Take out the Bill of rights. What is YOUR opinion on a weapon of this type being available? You think that this is a great idea?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jessica80 View Post
    Take out the Bill of rights. What is YOUR opinion on a weapon of this type being available? You think that this is a great idea?
    That is a silly question.. So I can't base my ideas on my religion, I can't base them on the law.. what should I base them on?
    If everyone was perfect.. or if I was a pacifist I would agree there would be no need for weapons at all . Long as there is evil in the world and I am not a pacifist, I think it is only right that the people doing evil to me and mine don't have a chance.. even if that may in the future be the government .
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rivergallery View Post
    That is a silly question.. So I can't base my ideas on my religion, I can't base them on the law.. what should I base them on?
    If everyone was perfect.. or if I was a pacifist I would agree there would be no need for weapons at all . Long as there is evil in the world and I am not a pacifist, I think it is only right that the people doing evil to me and mine don't have a chance.. even if that may in the future be the government .
    I'm trying to wrap my head around what you mean/translate this. Do you mean that you think that because you have or have the ability to own a gun you feel sure that the people who would do you harm (including the Government) don't stand a chance of being able to do you harm? That your gun protects you from any and all, including a Government gone awry, who would ever try to hurt you? May I ask what sort of gun you have? Is it a magical gun?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rivergallery View Post
    That is a silly question.. So I can't base my ideas on my religion, I can't base them on the law.. what should I base them on?
    If everyone was perfect.. or if I was a pacifist I would agree there would be no need for weapons at all . Long as there is evil in the world and I am not a pacifist, I think it is only right that the people doing evil to me and mine don't have a chance.. even if that may in the future be the government .
    How is it silly? I can tell you my opinions of existing laws & rules, even when I obey them I may have differing opinions. Even if you're talking about religious ideas, there are religious scholars who actually debate things instead of taking them for granted. People debate constitutional law all the time. I think she's asking for your opinion.
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    I didn't say you couldn't base it off the law but I was wondering if those were your true feelings. Not just that they can legally have one but that you think this particular weapon is a good idea in the hands of the public.

    For example, I'm perfectly fine with pot being legal. However, I currently obey the laws that are set. If we were debating if someone could be arrested for pot possession and it is illegal I will use the law to support the arrest. Doesn't change my *personal* opinion that it should be legal.
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    I can't speak for her, but I think perhaps what RG was saying was that if we lived in a perfect world there would be no need for guns. However, as long as some people have guns and try to hurt people, then there is a need for everyone to be able to have guns.
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    But not nec. every kind of gun.

    Thats the part that i don't get...and i don't think it matters that it doesn't explicitly list that out in the actual amendment. We've been over this before, we have existing exceptions and rules to the amendments that are not explicitly included in the language.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rivergallery View Post
    That is a silly question.. So I can't base my ideas on my religion, I can't base them on the law.. what should I base them on?
    If everyone was perfect.. or if I was a pacifist I would agree there would be no need for weapons at all . Long as there is evil in the world and I am not a pacifist, I think it is only right that the people doing evil to me and mine don't have a chance.. even if that may in the future be the government .
    This has been bugging me all morning. I don't think that I've ever really encountered anyone who has flat out stated that they aren't a pacifist. I mean, on some level, don't we all want peace? Don't we all believe, on an intellectual level that peace between nations (or individuals CAN be achieved without resorting to war? Does stating that one is NOT a pacifist mean that you would call your self pro war or pro violent solution? I'm really curious about what you mean by this, could you explain it more?

    pac?i?fism (ps-fzm)n.1. The belief that disputes between nations should and can be settled peacefully.
    2.a. Opposition to war or violence as a means of resolving disputes.
    b. Such opposition demonstrated by refusal to participate in military action.


    I guess that I've never even considered that anyone would be "anti" definition #1. Or #2A. #2 B, well, I would not personally go to war, but I guess I do understand how other people would go to war, but if 2 out of 3 definitions of pacifist fit would one really be "not a pacifist"? I'm very interested to hear more, if you don't mind.
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