Hoarding disorder - Page 2
+ Reply to Thread
Page 2 of 3 FirstFirst 123 LastLast
Results 11 to 20 of 21
Like Tree11Likes

Thread: Hoarding disorder

  1. #11
    Community Host
    Join Date
    Aug 2006
    Posts
    13,587

    Default

    When I think of hoarding, I think of someone who has so much stuff that you can barely walk from one side of a room to the other. Not someone who has some clutter.
    freddieflounder101 likes this.

    ~Bonita~

  2. #12
    Prolific Poster bunnyfufu's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2005
    Location
    Rocky Mountains
    Posts
    1,716

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by freddieflounder101 View Post
    I speak only as someone who has had to watch the show quite a bit. . .the people on it are not materialistic, they are mentally ill. They save crazy things. . .expired food, old toys nobody wants, broken equipment. It's definitely a disorder and not really about the "stuff". One guy saved his mother's empty prescription bottles because he was still traumatized by losing her. Some people are ordering things via shopping networks & web, but lots of them are saving garbage. People who collect, even obsessively, often put a lot more care into the things they collect.

    I definitely think it's a disorder and these people need treatment as well as a clean-up.

    I agree that it is more than being materialistic but I think it is deeply and in a very pure sense materialistic. And I specifically think that the fetishizing of material things is the outward sign of a deeper internal pathology.

    Make more sense. I wasn't meaning to say that hoarding is a superficial problem. KWIM?

  3. #13
    Posting Addict
    Join Date
    May 2006
    Posts
    14,461

    Default

    I've never seen the show but I think that yes, its very much a mental disorder and I can't say whether or not its on the rise or not as I really don't know. I do think that in general people feel much more out of control in this world ~ so yes, I think that in general disorders or addictions are on the rise as people strive to make sense out of this world or seek to control *something* and that in and of itself can lend itself towards addictive patterns or behaviors, whether that be an eating disorder, drug or alcohol abuse, hoarding, etc etc.

    I tend to be the opposite of a hoarder. I loathe clutter and truly enjoy getting rid of things. My kids barely grow out of the clothes that they are in and I'm passing them along to friends. Just last night I passed along a box of baby clothes that my 3 YO had just grown out of. I feel much more in control of my environment when everything is super neat and there are no extraneous boxes or clutter or unused materials. I'm sure that is its own sort of disorder

    There was a woman who was a hoarder that my Mom was friends with, she used to work in the children's ministry at the church I grew up in. She died in a fire in her home. They could not get to her due to the piles of things she had hoarded. They could hear her screaming but literally could not navigate the massive piles of things she had collected. So sad.

  4. #14
    Posting Addict
    Join Date
    Mar 2003
    Posts
    23,516

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by KimPossible View Post
    I agree with you, but don't you think they are rooted in that same 'instinct' we have, but that hoarders have some sort of mental issue that prevents them from balancing it or reigning it in?

    I once saw a special on hoarding a long time ago (mind you from a crappy tv 'magazine' show) and the woman described it as a fear that she would lose a part of herself....that each little thing she has collected over the year becomes deeply associated with her identity.

    I think that just sounds like whatever causes us to be sentimental or nostaligic is on overdrive. Same with our instincts to collect or store...in reality, thats a survival instinct isn't it? Privisioning of sorts? I think we are built with a natural instinct to do those things, but again its on overdrive for these people.

    Thats why i feel its very spectrum like. I think those are all urges we experience or sound pretty natural. Its just that the typical brain knows how to control them to a practical degree.
    I'm not sure. Maybe our show just has the extra crazy ones, but those people were hoarding their own pee in bottles, unfixable appliances, clothes they never took the tags off of, etc. Their family members stop coming over because of how extreme it gets.

    So...it may be rooted in a natural instinct the way most mental illness is, it springs from some facet of human nature but gets taken to an extreme due to disorder/illness.

    But again, I only talk as someone who has seen a lot of these episodes 'cause it's my job, not as any kind of authority.

    My in-laws are not hoarders, but their house is filled with ridiculous clutter. But I wouldn't call them hoarders and I think it's just because the task seems overwhelming, they don't even see the clutter for what it is anymore. When we were house-hunting, one place we looked at had random items piled up literally from floor to ceiling in the garage. You couldn't walk in. That is hoarding.
    Laurie, mom to:
    Nathaniel ( 10 ) and Juliet ( 7 )




    Baking Adventures In A Messy Kitchen (blog)

  5. #15
    Posting Addict ClairesMommy's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2006
    Location
    Canada
    Posts
    12,517

    Default

    I've watched Buried Alive before and I kind of see a couple different tendencies. The first is the ones I think are the true hoarders - the ones who impulsively and irrationally collect and never ever purge - the ones with newspapers stacked to the ceiling or books or clothes or other collectibles and whatnot. Then there are the ones whose houses are essentially garbage cans and nothing more. The rooms are stacked high with simply garbage - empty fast food containers, dirty dishes, cigarette butts all over the place, cat feces, human feces in a massive piles overflowing the toilet. I will never be convinced the latter is hoarding as classified as a mental disorder. The first? Yes.

  6. #16
    Mega Poster mom3girls's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2007
    Posts
    3,469

    Default

    I have an uncle diagnosed with OCD and as Bi-polar. He is a major hoarder. He keeps EVERYTHING. He ties memories to everything. An empty slupee cup is not trash, it is a memory to taking his grand son to 711 an having fun. People have gone into his house before and cleaned it all out, it was seriously traumatic for him. It is horrible health wise for him as well. At 57 years old he acts more like an 80 year old. The whole thing is very sad, and I believe anyone that has first hand knowledge of it knows it is a mental disease
    Lisa
    Molly, Morgan, Mia and Carson

  7. #17
    Community Host
    Join Date
    Aug 2006
    Posts
    13,587

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by mom3girls View Post
    The whole thing is very sad, and I believe anyone that has first hand knowledge of it knows it is a mental disease
    Agreed.

    ~Bonita~

  8. #18
    Prolific Poster ftmom's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2006
    Posts
    2,378

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by freddieflounder101 View Post
    I'm not sure. Maybe our show just has the extra crazy ones, but those people were hoarding their own pee in bottles, unfixable appliances, clothes they never took the tags off of, etc. Their family members stop coming over because of how extreme it gets.

    So...it may be rooted in a natural instinct the way most mental illness is, it springs from some facet of human nature but gets taken to an extreme due to disorder/illness.

    But again, I only talk as someone who has seen a lot of these episodes 'cause it's my job, not as any kind of authority.

    My in-laws are not hoarders, but their house is filled with ridiculous clutter. But I wouldn't call them hoarders and I think it's just because the task seems overwhelming, they don't even see the clutter for what it is anymore. When we were house-hunting, one place we looked at had random items piled up literally from floor to ceiling in the garage. You couldn't walk in. That is hoarding.
    lol That sounds like my parents garage, and they are not hoarders Poor things, my sister has moved many times and the detritus gets left in their garage, and then her husband died and his tools were dumped there to be sold, then the roof leaked so everything got jumbled together......it seems like every time my dad gets a handle on it something else happens to fill it back up again.
    Quote Originally Posted by freddieflounder101 View Post
    I am the same. . .but I don't think that's the type of thing they're talking about when they classify it as a disorder.

    Like, I have piles of old clothes to give away, and if someone offered to just take them and donate them, I'd be thrilled and willing to risk the chance that there might be something I'd want to keep if I went through it.

    Boxes I haven't looked at are a different story.
    I think like most mental illnesses, there are acceptable degrees to things. Everyone gets sad, but depression is a whole other degree, just like many people have OCD tendencies while not everyone has OCD. I would think this is the same. Many of us have a hard time getting rid of things, but we can do it to keep our homes and lives running smoothly. These people cant. I think the point that something goes from a quirk, or 'normal' to mental illness is the point that it starts effecting the rest of your life.

    I think that my MIL could easily swing into a full blown horder very easily. Her house is FULL, to the point that we wont let the kids stay there because it is impossible to clean making it hard on anyone with allergies and a fire hazard. It is not to the point though that the 'public rooms' are too bad. You can still function in the living, kitchen, bathroom, though they are cluttered. She does suffer from depression though and feels very isolated. She is still living with my FIL which is the only thing that I think keeps it from blowing up on her. She gets very stressed when he takes things out of the house though, but every once in awhile she will make a huge effort and fill a garbage bin, but she insists she has to do it by herself, and it takes her forever because she is terrified she might throw out something important by accident. She tells this story all the time about how she once through out her daughters earing that was in a bag of garbage on her bed, like it was the end of the world.....to which I say, why the heck was it in the garbage to begin with??
    Kyla
    Mom to Arianna (5), Conner (3) and Trent (my baby)

  9. #19
    Prolific Poster
    Join Date
    Aug 2004
    Posts
    2,219

    Default

    Until I started watching Hoarders, I wasn't familiar with a lot of the tendencies, I often thought it was just a situation where they didn't throw things out and it got out of control and they needed help cleaning up. It's so beyond that. Some of the people I have seen have mental illnesses that are long term and have been known since maybe childhood and sometimes it's a reaction from a traumatic event. Many times, they have had a spouse die or a child die at young ages and it spurs this reaction. It's very sad.
    Mom to Elizabeth (6) and Corinne (4)

  10. #20
    Posting Addict
    Join Date
    May 2002
    Location
    Chicagoland
    Posts
    15,362

    Default

    I definitely agree that those extreme cases of hoarding are generally the result of mental illness. It's so sad, and hard to wrap my head around, the people who won't even let the crew throw out old, moldy food. However, I have seen some episodes where it seems more like a case of things getting out of control, and it just keeps building.

    I do have to say - I sure feel a lot better about my house after watching an episode
    GloriaInTX likes this.
    Carolyn - 37
    Wife to Chad - 39
    Mom to Tom - 15
    Matt -11
    Nathan - 10


+ Reply to Thread
Page 2 of 3 FirstFirst 123 LastLast

Bookmarks

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
v -->

About Us | Contact Us | Privacy Policy | Sitemap | Terms & Conditions