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    And no person should have to die because they couldn't afford health insurance.


    If a company can employ hundreds of people...they must be making enough money to provide health insurance. Can you show me a company that cannot?

    And again, if it is against my moral convictions to not provide someone with say...ADHD meds like adderall I should be able to say no to that right? If I don't like it when people have upper GI's I should stop that coverage to right? Even if it can be for health reasons which many woman take BC pills for.

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    They aren't a wonderful company if they are willing to discriminate against their employees who do not share their religious beliefs. If I worked for a Muslim boss who refused me food during Ramadan I would not call him wonderful and moral and principled- I would call it illegal. Same in this instance. Being Christian does not make them wonderful- being within the bounds of the law and allowing god to judge from there would make them wonderful.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Potter75 View Post
    They aren't a wonderful company if they are willing to discriminate against their employees who do not share their religious beliefs. If I worked for a Muslim boss who refused me food during Ramadan I would not call him wonderful and moral and principled- I would call it illegal. Same in this instance. Being Christian does not make them wonderful- being within the bounds of the law and allowing god to judge from there would make them wonderful.
    Refused you food? Or refused to pay for your food? 2 different things.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jessica80 View Post
    Everyone does have the right to believe what they believe ...for themselves. When you are making ethical decisions for others that is where I draw the line. It is not your job to tell me what medicine I can take. It's not your job to tell me how I choose to live my life. If the owner of Hobby Lobby doesn't want to use BCP awesome. I don't use BCP. I don't like them. Not my job to tell you how to live your life.
    Hobby Lobby isn't telling anyone what medicine to take. They are just saying they won't pay for it.
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    When you have health insurance you should have standard coverage that everyone gets. It is NOT up to Hobby Lobby to say .."HEY I won't use those and you can't either".

    What is stupid is that providing coverage for birth control pills has shown to reduce premium payments over time. They would be saving money but for that pesky Christian "sticking their noses into other people's business" thing they are doing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jessica80 View Post
    When you have health insurance you should have standard coverage that everyone gets. It is NOT up to Hobby Lobby to say .."HEY I won't use those and you can't either".

    What is stupid is that providing coverage for birth control pills has shown to reduce premium payments over time. They would be saving money but for that pesky Christian "sticking their noses into other people's business" thing they are doing.
    AGAIN they aren't telling anyone what medicine they can use.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jessica80 View Post
    And no person should have to die because they couldn't afford health insurance.
    I would be interested to know what percent of people in America work full time and are able to get insurance through their employer? IMO that system obviously is not working out. I think I probably know more SAHM, people who are retired, people who are unemployed, people who only work part time, or people who work for a small enough place that they can not get health insurance through their work than I know people who are full time with medical benefits. Do you really think that through employers is the best most efficient way to provide insurance?
    Quote Originally Posted by Potter75 View Post
    They aren't a wonderful company if they are willing to discriminate against their employees who do not share their religious beliefs. If I worked for a Muslim boss who refused me food during Ramadan I would not call him wonderful and moral and principled- I would call it illegal. Same in this instance. Being Christian does not make them wonderful- being within the bounds of the law and allowing god to judge from there would make them wonderful.
    Your employer does not need to provide you food either. They provide a wage and you go buy your own food.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GloriaInTX View Post
    AGAIN they aren't telling anyone what medicine they can use.
    no, just what medicine they can't use. Why are you guys FOR creating more unwanted babies that you so loathe paying for? It's so bizarre how much you love unfertilized eggs but then don't care about actual PEOPLE. You know, the bums, the criminal "trash", the rioting poor, the welfare "takers" etc.....Again, wild stuff!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jessica80 View Post
    What Melis said. I'm glad the government gets involved in some aspects. I don't want to be paid 1.00 an hour and I don't want that to be the standard. I don't want 5 year olds working in factories. I don't want to worry that if I go into work I'm potentially going to get killed by falling debris because no one oversaw if I work in a safe environment.

    Have you ever read about how conditions in workplaces were before their were regulations? Of course you have. Do you want it to go back to that?
    I understand your not wanting to be paid $1 an hour, but if milk was .05 it would be fine probably fairly good! I never mentioned 5yo or safe environment regs, you are asserting that since I don't want government involved in some aspects I don't want them involved at all. I do still believe in the RIGHT TO LIFE first , so yes some safety standards should be met. Not sure they are all needed, and some standards like Cafe Standards are still based on fake science.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Potter75 View Post
    no, just what medicine they can't use. Why are you guys FOR creating more unwanted babies that you so loathe paying for? It's so bizarre how much you love unfertilized eggs but then don't care about actual PEOPLE. You know, the bums, the criminal "trash", the rioting poor, the welfare "takers" etc.....Again, wild stuff!
    It has NOTHING to do with any of that. Those are just side issues that really have nothing to do with this debate. This debate is about religious freedom, and the fact that the goverment is forcing someone to pay something which prohibits the free exercise of their religion and their belief that it is murder.

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