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    Quote Originally Posted by Potter75 View Post
    no, just what medicine they can't use. Why are you guys FOR creating more unwanted babies that you so loathe paying for? It's so bizarre how much you love unfertilized eggs but then don't care about actual PEOPLE. You know, the bums, the criminal "trash", the rioting poor, the welfare "takers" etc.....Again, wild stuff!
    You do know who invented orphanages? Who started most of the hospitals.. who creates most of the shelters and foodbanks?
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    I live in an area that has a lot of people that have a double income and we are already required to have insurance here and employers are already fined when they don't provide it and they meet the criteria...so a lot of people have insurance. AND it includes birth control pills. And vasectomies. AND abortions! Can you believe we actually function up here? People not making moral judgements on others? It's like a miracle we can go on with our lives!

    My employer is offering me health insurance. I don't expect to see them say..but you know what..we don't like that particular thing you might want or need. (My friend has to take bcp for endo...not actual bc but if she worked at Hobby Lobby she wouldn't be able to have her insurance pay for that? Crazy.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jessica80 View Post
    I live in an area that has a lot of people that have a double income and we are already required to have insurance here and employers are already fined when they don't provide it and they meet the criteria...so a lot of people have insurance. AND it includes birth control pills. And vasectomies. AND abortions! Can you believe we actually function up here? People not making moral judgements on others? It's like a miracle we can go on with our lives!

    My employer is offering me health insurance. I don't expect to see them say..but you know what..we don't like that particular thing you might want or need. (My friend has to take bcp for endo...not actual bc but if she worked at Hobby Lobby she wouldn't be able to have her insurance pay for that? Crazy.)
    Just curious.... since your employer doesn't provide your milk are they saying you aren't allowed to drink milk?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rivergallery View Post
    You do know who invented orphanages? Who started most of the hospitals.. who creates most of the shelters and foodbanks?
    I just hope it wasn't catholic priests?

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    Oh for everyone, you can order Hobby Lobby products online.. everytime I see this window, I forget which one it is, is it the one I am ordering my acrylics from or this crazy debate
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    Quote Originally Posted by GloriaInTX View Post
    Just curious.... since your employer doesn't provide your milk are they saying you aren't allowed to drink milk?
    Nope because along with health insurance, my employer pays me so I can buy milk and I don't get a note in my paycheck that says...for everything..but milk.

    Since I work for my insurer they are self insured for us. They don't limit what I do. It's nice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GloriaInTX View Post
    It has NOTHING to do with any of that. Those are just side issues that really have nothing to do with this debate. This debate is about religious freedom, and the fact that the goverment is forcing someone to pay something which prohibits the free exercise of their religion and their belief that it is murder.
    No one is stopping Hobby Lobby owner from exercising his freedom. Why is his religious convictions more important than someone's health?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jessica80 View Post
    No one is stopping Hobby Lobby owner from exercising his freedom. Why is his religious convictions more important than someone's health?
    They aren't. He isn't forcing his religious views on anyone. He just doesn't want to pay for them. If someone employs a Native American and they use pyote in their religious practices should their employer be required to pay for that?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jessica80 View Post
    Nope because along with health insurance, my employer pays me so I can buy milk and I don't get a note in my paycheck that says...for everything..but milk.

    Since I work for my insurer they are self insured for us. They don't limit what I do. It's nice.
    Hobby Lobby pays their employees and they can buy as many pills as they want with that money. Same thing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jessica80 View Post
    Nope because along with health insurance, my employer pays me so I can buy milk and I don't get a note in my paycheck that says...for everything..but milk.
    IMO it is not different than buying milk. They pay you a wage, and you buy what you see fit. Why should it be that there is a note in your pay check that says X amount of your pay went toward health insurance? Should you not get to chose what your pay check goes to?
    Quote Originally Posted by Jessica80 View Post
    No one is stopping Hobby Lobby owner from exercising his freedom. Why is his religious convictions more important than someone's health?
    His religious convictions are not more important that someone's health. Your employer shouldn't have anything to do at all with your health or your health insurance. Your employer should not be the one paying for your heath care.

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