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    Default Honor Student jailed for Truancy

    Do you believe that this judge was correct in his sentencing?

    Honor student placed in jail for tardiness and truancy at school

    Do you agree that by making an exception in this case with the judge's expressed belief that he would appear *soft* by not treating all cases of truancy the same? While this case does appear to be exceptional, how do you feel that judges should deal with truancy cases of those age 17 and over? (In many states, at that age those teens could simply drop out.)

    (There is a follow up story: People across the country offer help to honor student jailed for truancy )

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    A night in jail and a $100 fine? Heck it's around $300 at our high schools for the first offense. Truancy is a big issue out here. I would like to see her timecards for word to see if school is the only area where she is late or misses.

    In CA you need a work permit to work during the school year. There are many limitations so she would not have been able to be working as many hours as she is. With her truancy problem they would probably revoke it. Do they have similar to work permits in TX?

    From what I read, TX isn't a state where you can drop out at 17, so no, they shouldn't be soft on those who are 17. To me that sends the wrong message anyway. Kind of like if I told my 18 YO that the house rules didn't apply to her because she doesn't have to live there.

    I'm really trying to be sympathetic to her plight but at 17, school is the priority out off of those things. It comes first. If she is too tired to make it to class on time or at all, the working needs to take a back seat for now. I find it really strange that the parents both moved away. I think the courts should intervene on her and her sister's behalf to go after both parents for CS.

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    I dont think we jail or fine for truancy here? Feel free to correct me if I am wrong.....but i have never seen it done.

    However, I do think that this girl should face the same punishment that any other student would for chronic lates and truancy. Especially the lates. Being absent typically only effects you, and if you are absent a lot, I dont think the teacher should have to 'catch you up' that is your responsibility. However, the disruption of coming into a classroom late, effects all the students, no matter what your grade point.
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    While I get that they need to crack down on truancy why isn't the concern and time put to finding the parents of these kids and making them come back to support them? She's working to support her younger sibling who is living with 1 family and an older sibling in college. The parents are sad excuses for parents and deadbeats.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jessica1980 View Post
    While I get that they need to crack down on truancy why isn't the concern and time put to finding the parents of these kids and making them come back to support them? She's working to support her younger sibling who is living with 1 family and an older sibling in college. The parents are sad excuses for parents and deadbeats.
    I would not argue with this at all! Hopefully this gets her into the system and causes people who could do something about it, to start asking those questions.
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    Knowing her circumstances, I don't think he would appear soft for treating this case differently. Every kid has a different situation that they may be facing to explain truancy. Just like parenting multiple kids where the punishments are different depending on the kid, the judge should be looking as to what is behind the issue and focus more on that rather than fining, throwing her in jail, and creating a permanent juvenile record.

    Here, our state allows kids to drop out at 16. For those that are truant up to that age, they are automatically referred to child protection after a set number of truancies. They investigate what is going on instead of automatically criminally charging the minor. In this girl's case, they should go after the parents. They're deadbeats and deserve to be punished for dumping their minor children on others without ensuring the financial support they deserve. Had this been done to begin with, this girl who seems to be handling most of her life incredibly better than most I know, still receiving honors, would not be working a full and part time job while going to school full time. That is absolute insanity. No wonder the girl was late. But as a minor who has not gained experience to see the bigger picture of how this is not healthy for her and possibly feeling pressure that this was her only solution, the judge should have court ordered an investigation on the parents for abandonment.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ftmom View Post
    I dont think we jail or fine for truancy here? Feel free to correct me if I am wrong.....but i have never seen it done.

    However, I do think that this girl should face the same punishment that any other student would for chronic lates and truancy. Especially the lates. Being absent typically only effects you, and if you are absent a lot, I dont think the teacher should have to 'catch you up' that is your responsibility. However, the disruption of coming into a classroom late, effects all the students, no matter what your grade point.
    No, we don't jail or fine for truancy and students can drop out whenever.

    I think the judge needs to go with whatever the current precedent is and not make exceptions to those rules. The bigger problem in this situation is that she is having to do so much to support her family.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beertje View Post
    Knowing her circumstances, I don't think he would appear soft for treating this case differently. Every kid has a different situation that they may be facing to explain truancy. Just like parenting multiple kids where the punishments are different depending on the kid, the judge should be looking as to what is behind the issue and focus more on that rather than fining, throwing her in jail, and creating a permanent juvenile record.

    Here, our state allows kids to drop out at 16. For those that are truant up to that age, they are automatically referred to child protection after a set number of truancies. They investigate what is going on instead of automatically criminally charging the minor.
    Judge Lanny Moriarty said last month Diane Tran was in his Justice of the Peace court for truancy and he warned her then to stop missing school. But she recently missed classes again so Wednesday he issued a summons and had her arrested in open court when she appeared.
    Last year I started getting letters from the truancy officer. My daughter had 9 tardies and 12 absences. Why? The tardies were all due to daycare dropping her off late. She had 3 tardies over the course of 7 days. The next day I pulled her out of that daycare. (The last time she was tardy, the did kind of a drive-by drop off instead of the procedure of walking her up.) The 12 absences were due to illness. Every single one of the them involved a doctor's visit and 2 or 3 days absent at a time. Anyway, my point is, at the point it gets before a judge, a whole lot of intervening steps have taken place. Letters, meetings, phone calls, and discussion with the deputy/police officer.

    I think he would be soft to warn her and then not follow through with his warning. You can discipline your children differently, but this is akin to telling your child what the consequences for a specific behavior will be and then not following through.

    In this girl's case, they should go after the parents. They're deadbeats and deserve to be punished for dumping their minor children on others without ensuring the financial support they deserve. Had this been done to begin with, this girl who seems to be handling most of her life incredibly better than most I know, still receiving honors, would not be working a full and part time job while going to school full time. That is absolute insanity. No wonder the girl was late. But as a minor who has not gained experience to see the bigger picture of how this is not healthy for her and possibly feeling pressure that this was her only solution, the judge should have court ordered an investigation on the parents for abandonment.
    I agree with you. We don't know the details but there must be more than the parents abandoned the kids and the courts have made no attempt to find them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kris_w View Post
    No, we don't jail or fine for truancy and students can drop out whenever.

    I think the judge needs to go with whatever the current precedent is and not make exceptions to those rules. The bigger problem in this situation is that she is having to do so much to support her family.
    Wait, kids can just leave school at any age? Like 12? Or is it 16 or something?

    The drop out age is 18 where the girl lives.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ethanwinfield View Post
    Wait, kids can just leave school at any age? Like 12? Or is it 16 or something?

    The drop out age is 18 where the girl lives.
    I think it is 16, or grade 10 (both those are around the same time, so not sure which one it is)
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