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    Quote Originally Posted by fuchsiasky View Post
    When our parents were growing up food was made with food, not food additives. Chicken soup had chicken, water, noodles, veggies and spices. There wasn't any msg, colour or 16 letter food additives. I think that may have a lot to do with it.

    I agree with the theories on dirt too. I don't buy hand sanitizer. We are meant to encounter dirt, germs, illness etc. That is why we have an immune system. We need to be able to use it. If their are no germs anywhere, what does our immune system go after? Random things like pollen and peanut.
    I agree.

    I also do not do hand sanitizer or special anti-bacterial soaps. We have a dog (supposedly kids that are exposed to pets are less likely to develop dander allergies.) We don't, like, make a point of getting filthy or anything, but I don't worry a ton about germs. So far no allergies, but we only have one and he's only 4, so we'll see....
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    I think this theory is right on, along with the other things Lisa and Jessica have brought up.

    It is very anecdotal but I can usually guess which kids in my classes will have allergies and they are also the ones that refuse to get dirty. I have seen parents that make their kids wash their hands on the way into class, on the way out and then the moms carry sanitizer in their purse.

    I also think though that it has a lot to do with over use of antibiotics. And this will probably get flamed, but also vaccines. A good friends DD has to see a pulmonary doctor on a regular basis, and he mentioned that every time a new vaccine comes out he sees a marked increase in kids with asthma
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    I think that asthma tends to be overdiagnosed in wealthier families and underdiagnosed in poorer families. Why? Families with money and good insurance are more likely to take their children to the doctor (sometimes too often). And unfortunately a Momma with a Coach purse and fashionable outfit seems more credible than a Momma with stained clothes and tennis shoes with holes.
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    I think ALL of this makes sense. I also agree about the economic issue, but it might not be so much about credibility necessarily as just being more proactive about preventive health, understanding that something might be a chronic condition, etc.

    But we also skip the hand sanitizer and all the excessive freaking out about germs.

    Of course sometimes these allergies do just happen, and I think thinks like lactose intolerance just get recognized more but were often an issue before now. But all of these things everyone has mentioned contribute.
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    Interesting theories. I would love to know the cause of Asthma. I grew up in NY and never had Asthma. No signs of it, never and problems breathing. Moved to TN and a few years later developed Asthma. I am more inclined to believe it is because I started to gain weight as an adult, but I am not sure. There were a lot of other changes that could have been the cause. Moving from the country to the city being one of them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AlyssaEimers View Post
    Interesting theories. I would love to know the cause of Asthma. I grew up in NY and never had Asthma. No signs of it, never and problems breathing. Moved to TN and a few years later developed Asthma. I am more inclined to believe it is because I started to gain weight as an adult, but I am not sure. There were a lot of other changes that could have been the cause. Moving from the country to the city being one of them.
    When I moved to a new area, I also developed a lot of allergies I didn't have before. I actually didn't have any issues until I moved to a new area. Then I was constantly sick with bronchitis from the smallest thing, like just going outside or in traffic. It was so irritating and dreaded just opening the windows. The air pollutants were way too much for me somehow. Then we moved again, and the allergies continued. They seem to cause wheezing, coughing, and bronchial spasms that worsen in colder air and exposure to anything. I'm crazy allergic to bleach for some reason. After someone cleans something with bleach my lungs close up and I get very sick. I'm horribly allergic to cigarette smoke, even third hand smoke like on clothes or remnants in the air. Often I have to use an inhaler. It's getting more often that I have to use a nebulizer AND an inhaler together. Over the years it's worsened quite a lot and in all of my pregnancies I have a couple of months at the beginning where I have difficulty breathing and then towards the end it's horrible. Last pregnancy I was in serious condition. I was using the inhaler combined with the nebulizer around the clock. This pregnancy I bought a pulse ox meter and hope everything stays ok.

    ETA, asthma attacks can be caused by moving to new areas with different allergens. There are different triggers for different people. Sometimes people can have asthma LIKE symptoms and not have full asthma. Have you had a PFT, Pulmonary Lung Fuction Test?

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    Asthma is, or at least can start out as, a very vague, dismissible, puzzling collection of symptoms. I don't know why Ben got asthma. Maybe it had something to do with the fluid trapped in his lungs for the first week - under the oxy hood and then the isolete. IDK. Maybe it had something to do with immunity he got from me while bfing. As soon as he was weaned at a year all his problems started. For him the trigger is respiratory viruses. He could never just have a cough - it always turned into pneumonia or bronchitis or tonsillitis and his oxygen levels would drop with wheezing and really intense in-drawing. The most recent thing was RSV last January which triggered his airways to slam shut. Oxygen levels in the 70s is very very bad and he was in the hospital for 4 days. So, at least for our family, flu shots and vaccines are important, especially the ones that prevent respiratory issues. I wish there was a vaccine for RSV.

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    Quote Originally Posted by myyams View Post
    When I moved to a new area, I also developed a lot of allergies I didn't have before. I actually didn't have any issues until I moved to a new area. Then I was constantly sick with bronchitis from the smallest thing, like just going outside or in traffic. It was so irritating and dreaded just opening the windows. The air pollutants were way too much for me somehow. Then we moved again, and the allergies continued. They seem to cause wheezing, coughing, and bronchial spasms that worsen in colder air and exposure to anything. I'm crazy allergic to bleach for some reason. After someone cleans something with bleach my lungs close up and I get very sick. I'm horribly allergic to cigarette smoke, even third hand smoke like on clothes or remnants in the air. Often I have to use an inhaler. It's getting more often that I have to use a nebulizer AND an inhaler together. Over the years it's worsened quite a lot and in all of my pregnancies I have a couple of months at the beginning where I have difficulty breathing and then towards the end it's horrible. Last pregnancy I was in serious condition. I was using the inhaler combined with the nebulizer around the clock. This pregnancy I bought a pulse ox meter and hope everything stays ok.

    ETA, asthma attacks can be caused by moving to new areas with different allergens. There are different triggers for different people. Sometimes people can have asthma LIKE symptoms and not have full asthma. Have you had a PFT, Pulmonary Lung Fuction Test?

    I wanted to include this too in case it can help you:

    Trigger avoidance in asthma
    Thank you. I have been to a specialist where they diagnosed me and gave me medicine.
    Quote Originally Posted by ClairesMommy View Post
    Asthma is, or at least can start out as, a very vague, dismissible, puzzling collection of symptoms. I don't know why Ben got asthma. Maybe it had something to do with the fluid trapped in his lungs for the first week - under the oxy hood and then the isolete. IDK. Maybe it had something to do with immunity he got from me while bfing. As soon as he was weaned at a year all his problems started. For him the trigger is respiratory viruses. He could never just have a cough - it always turned into pneumonia or bronchitis or tonsillitis and his oxygen levels would drop with wheezing and really intense in-drawing. The most recent thing was RSV last January which triggered his airways to slam shut. Oxygen levels in the 70s is very very bad and he was in the hospital for 4 days. So, at least for our family, flu shots and vaccines are important, especially the ones that prevent respiratory issues. I wish there was a vaccine for RSV.
    Aww, sorry for all that your little family has gone through. Have you looked into the Synagis shots? When Caitlyn was a baby she got them because she was a preemie. I know it is not technically a vaccine, but she never got RSV even though her older sisters did.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ClairesMommy View Post
    Asthma is, or at least can start out as, a very vague, dismissible, puzzling collection of symptoms. I don't know why Ben got asthma. Maybe it had something to do with the fluid trapped in his lungs for the first week - under the oxy hood and then the isolete. IDK. Maybe it had something to do with immunity he got from me while bfing. As soon as he was weaned at a year all his problems started. For him the trigger is respiratory viruses. He could never just have a cough - it always turned into pneumonia or bronchitis or tonsillitis and his oxygen levels would drop with wheezing and really intense in-drawing. The most recent thing was RSV last January which triggered his airways to slam shut. Oxygen levels in the 70s is very very bad and he was in the hospital for 4 days. So, at least for our family, flu shots and vaccines are important, especially the ones that prevent respiratory issues. I wish there was a vaccine for RSV.
    Poor little guy...

    You need to buy him a pulse ox meter to monitor his oxygen saturation levels. I am not sure if the adult size will work correctly for kids. I've tried mine on my kids and it seemed fine, right in line with what mine were at that time. I think I paid $40 for mine. The only thing is that it tells how much oxygen saturation is in the blood but not how effectively it's being distributed. But, still oxy sat is important.

    It is puzzling. Some people have issues from birth and some develop them later in life. I was very exposed as a kid to all sorts of everythings. So the hygiene theory doesn't really work out in my case. I get sick a lot and that is just how it is. My kids are very exposed to all sorts of things but they do get sick a lot. My oldest is more prone to getting sick than the others. Usually he is the one who starts everything. We're not germaphobes or ultra hygienic. My husband brings home lots of germs from work. IDK.

    I think there are multiple factors and not one or two things creating this causation.
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    The number one lesson I've learned since all these things started happening with Ben is to fight like hell, don't let yourself get pushed around by doctors, and never ever doubt yourself. As soon as I grew a backbone and knew I wasn't crazy I started getting answers about what was wrong with my son.

    myyams, what is your name?

    I know there definitely have been times I wished I had the pulse-ox meter at home, but I wonder if it would drive me mental? Would I be plugging him in every time he got a cough or sounded rattly in his chest? It definitely would give peace of mind though. I remember being so scared to take him home after the RSV in January. I could see his oxygen numbers on the monitor and I was afraid that he'd start crashing again but that I wouldn't know because he wasn't being monitored at home.

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