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    *ABORTION MENTIONED/RESPONSE TO ABORTION IN ARTICLE*



    I need to read more on that but I of course the IRS shouldn't put stipulations in what a group can and cannot do if it does not involve tax status, income etc.

    On a side note, I find it funny that the person interviewed doesn't want to limit what a pro life group does and having to give them equal time when it's often put into law that people seeking abortions have to wait or have to discuss other alternatives. Not too fun on the other side.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jessica80 View Post
    On a side note, I find it funny that the person interviewed doesn't want to limit what a pro life group does and having to give them equal time when it's often put into law that people seeking abortions have to wait or have to discuss other alternatives. Not too fun on the other side.
    I don't see how that has anything to do with it why should a pro-life group have to spend their contributions to promote a different view that is ridiculous.

    If someone is seeking an abortion they are debating a life or death decision I don't see how that should be taken lightly by anyone after all the life of a child is at stake. It's not like you can just change your mind the next day and bring that baby back to life. There are waiting periods put on other important life decisions even marriage in some places.
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    *CONTINUED RESPONSE TO ARTICLE ON ABORTION*


    I never said they should have to fund money! I just find it funny that if the stipulations were made to the opposite side all of sudden that side has a problem with it. I have a problem with the stipulations given to women seeking an abortion and I voice that. I don't agree with waiting periods as I don't feel the majority of women take it lightly. I don't think they need to present all sides except when seeking out advice. This is why I find it so odd that if suggested (and I don't think the IRS is the one to suggest this) that they have to present all options as many abortion providers do that all of sudden it is not cool with them.
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    I just wanted to point out that I had nothing to do with bring abortion into this debate.
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    No you didn't. I am pretty sure that it is clear. It happen as a response to an article that was posted. I did forget to title my posts. I will edit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jessica80 View Post
    I just read it as same activities not same classifications. My company and United Healthcare are doing similar activities but we are classified differently for tax purposes.
    This article states they were applying for the same tax status.

    In February 2010, the Champaign Tea Party in Illinois received approval of its tax-exempt status from the IRS in 90 days, no questions asked.

    That was the month before the Internal Revenue Service started singling out Tea Party groups for special treatment. There wouldn't be another Tea Party application approved for 27 months.

    In that time, the IRS approved perhaps dozens of applications from similar liberal and progressive groups, a USA TODAY review of IRS data shows.

    As applications from conservative groups sat in limbo, groups with liberal-sounding names had their applications approved in as little as nine months. With names including words like "Progress" or "Progressive," the liberal groups applied for the same tax status and were engaged in the same kinds of activities as the conservative groups.
    IRS approved liberal groups while Tea Party in limbo
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    I agree that there are a lot of questions to be raised. I just can't necessarily go on one article nor should anyone. I would like to know though what is a "liberal" group just that they had the name Progress or Progressive?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jessica80 View Post
    I agree that there are a lot of questions to be raised. I just can't necessarily go on one article nor should anyone. I would like to know though what is a "liberal" group just that they had the name Progress or Progressive?
    Here is a description of some of the groups from the same article.

    They included:

    • Bus for Progress, a New Jersey non-profit that uses a red, white and blue bus to "drive the progressive change." According to its website, its mission includes "support (for) progressive politicians with the courage to serve the people's interests and make tough choices." It got an IRS approval as a social welfare group in April 2011.

    • Missourians Organizing for Reform and Empowerment says it fights against corporate welfare and for increasing the minimum wage. "It would be fair to say we're on the progressive end of the spectrum," said executive director Jeff Ordower. He said the group got tax-exempt status in September 2011 in just nine months after "a pretty simple, straightforward process."

    • Progress Florida, granted tax-exempt status in January 2011, is lobbying the Florida Legislature to expand Medicaid under a provision of the Affordable Care Act, one of President Obama's signature accomplishments. The group did not return phone calls. "We're busy fighting to build a more progressive Florida and cannot take your call right now," the group's voice mail said.

    Like the Tea Party groups, the liberal groups sought recognition as social welfare groups under Section 501(c)(4) of the tax code, based on activities like "citizen participation" or "voter education and registration."
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    My initial feeling stands. I think they decided to group things for additional review which is common and not something I'm concerned about. I think they grouped things poorly however. I don't support investigations that are not across the board but I don't know if the influx in apps for tea party had the same amount as progressives and I don't really feel like going back to check.

    I think there are a lot of questions and workflows that the IRS needs to look into.
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    With all the new information on this subject coming out are those of you that were okay with it still feeling like it is not a big deal
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