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    Quote Originally Posted by KimPossible View Post
    Really? I admit it kind of creeps me out. I get the safety aspect of it, and i do like safety but I don't know...seems too invasive to me. Makes me uncomfortable.
    Well it only works near school. So, they can check and see where any student on school grounds is at any time. I see no harm in that at all. And if my kid was off doing something she shouldn't, all the easier to catch her and toss her butt in detention...

    And, working at a school, a TON of our time goes into looking for kids 'gone rogue'. It would certainly streamline things and make it easier to be on top of kids not being where they should be! People get so upset when things happen and we don't know where the kids are when they are here. Why would they get so mad about something like this id badge, when we try to think of new solutions so we always know where they are?
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    Quote Originally Posted by smsturner View Post
    Well it only works near school. So, they can check and see where any student on school grounds is at any time. I see no harm in that at all. And if my kid was off doing something she shouldn't, all the easier to catch her and toss her butt in detention...
    Yes I would imagine the bold could be used to theoretically justify any sort of tracking. In any scenario. I know i don't want to be tracked 'in case i might do something bad'. I dont' want to subject my kids to that either. Creepy.

    And, working at a school, a TON of our time goes into looking for kids 'gone rogue'. It would certainly streamline things and make it easier to be on top of kids not being where they should be! People get so upset when things happen and we don't know where the kids are when they are here. Why would they get so mad about something like this id badge, when we try to think of new solutions so we always know where they are?
    I get that it could be a time suck, but I don't think time should be saved at the expense of a certain level of privacy, even in a public school. Again its a line i might draw in a different place than some other people. Like cameras on the campus wouldn't bother me. But a device that could be used to pinpoint specific students and find out exactly where they've been all day. Too much for me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KimPossible View Post
    Only reason i question that they made it up is because she used to have an ID according to the article. So I'm not sure why an ID without the chip now is still objectionable. Maybe their religious beliefs changed...thats the only explanation that would make sense to me. But I really don't know what the purpose of making it up would be for so who knows.

    I agree with the bold but i guess it would have to be a case by case basis as to what is worthy of exception and what is not. Or what kinds of accommodations make sense given the effort and what ones don't. I sort of wish there was a clearly defined line to draw, but maybe there isn't
    I would say being against ID badges is not a stream lined objection. I went to a very conservative Christian college and we used ID badges with bar codes to scan in for everything. The dining hall, class, chapel and church, so I would not say that is a main stream objection. However, I can see how someone would come to the conclusions that they did. Over all, I am not a fan of telling someone that their beliefs are foolish, or that they are not valid because we do not understand them. If they are not hurting anyone, they should be aloud to believe whatever they want.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AlyssaEimers View Post
    I would say being against ID badges is not a stream lined objection. I went to a very conservative Christian college and we used ID badges with bar codes to scan in for everything. The dining hall, class, chapel and church, so I would not say that is a main stream objection. However, I can see how someone would come to the conclusions that they did. Over all, I am not a fan of telling someone that their beliefs are foolish, or that they are not valid because we do not understand them. If they are not hurting anyone, they should be aloud to believe whatever they want.
    Yeah i never said they shouldn't be allowed to believe it. Just saying its odd that they didn't use to believe and now seem to.

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    I am with Kim, the whole idea is CREEPY!
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    Bonita~she wore an ID badge before and similar to what they are offering w/o the chip? How can it be okay for all these years but not now.

    These creep me out btw.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KimPossible View Post
    Yeah i never said they shouldn't be allowed to believe it. Just saying its odd that they didn't use to believe and now seem to.
    That doesn't seem like such an odd thing to me. Many people change their religious views over time as they do more studying. Say if someone drinks alchohol and thru studying the Bible come across a verse about drunkards being condemned and decide that they aren't going to drink anymore. Would you think that is odd?
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    Quote Originally Posted by GloriaInTX View Post
    That doesn't seem like such an odd thing to me. Many people change their religious views over time as they do more studying. Say if someone drinks alchohol and thru studying the Bible come across a verse about drunkards being condemned and decide that they aren't going to drink anymore. Would you think that is odd?
    I think it happens. I even said that might be the case. But i would have thought that that explanation would have been given. Maybe the lawyers think its irrelevant. I tend to agree with them actually if thats the case. Perhaps it would just make more sense to me if an explanation was given, specifically since the judge pointed it out.
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    I think that the parents are being unreasonable. They were offered an extremely fair compromise, and are refusing to take it. At this point their "religious" beliefs are interfering with a reasonable expectation on the schools part (ID badges make sense from a safety and security perspective in public education) ~ which is their right, but at this point they lose the right to public education, IMO. They can homeschool or pay for private school if wearing an ID badge is so burdensome to their religion.

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    Eh, I don't really think it's creepy at all. In a public school they are watching you with cameras. I think that's MORE invasive. I guess it's just a matter of personal perspective?
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