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    My pets are part of the family but they are still animals and I'm not a fan of thinking they belong everywhere that humans do.

    I do not keep my animals outside. My cat is an indoor cat and my dog is only outside when leashed for walks or when we are out there. She stays inside when we are not at home and at night. I do think it is mean to keep them outdoors especially in the winter.
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    I'm still kind of floored by the dog kicking stuff.

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    No one replied yet how they would fend off an aggressive dog. I am honestly interested. Do you wait until you are actually bitten before you defend yourself? Or do you yell and gesticulate? What is the appropriate way of protecting yourself or your child from an aggressive dog?

    See, I look at it like this. If a human were to run up to me aggressively I would be reacting viscerally from the get-go. I'm not waiting to see how badly my children or I are going to be hurt before I start fighting back whether it's a person, a pet or a wild animal.

    But like I also said before, that has never happened. I've never kicked a dog. I've never told my kids to kick a dog. No dog has ever aggressively approached me. I'm only talking in hypothetical.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JorgieGirl View Post
    No one replied yet how they would fend off an aggressive dog. I am honestly interested. Do you wait until you are actually bitten before you defend yourself? Or do you yell and gesticulate? What is the appropriate way of protecting yourself or your child from an aggressive dog?
    Actually most things i've read about defending yourself from a dog recommends being calm, not aggressive. Do not run away, try a stern command, but don't shout or scream. Don't turn your back, but back away slowly. Dont make eye contact. Most things point to NOT fighting back aggressively as it will only cause the dog to try to render you dead or imobile. If you are knocked off your feet, then you should curl into a ball and use your arms and fists to cover your head and neck. Your primary goals to save yourself from a dog attack is to 1)back off of what they may perceive as their territory 2)do not display yourself as a threat and 3)Do not display yourself as prey (by turning your back and running)

    I have seen recommendations of throwing things because dogs are afraid of projectiles...and in the case of saving a child, you could attack the dog as a distraction (basically sacrificing yourself for the sake of the child) but it won't cause the dog to run away, kicking the dog would simply turn its attention to you instead.

    I would never blame anyone though for instinctually kicking a dog while being attacked because if you are operating on pure adrenalin, you may just do what your gut says, even if it will make your situation worse.

    Its this notion of being ready to kick any dog that may come close to you because you are afraid of them...and how thats somehow okay that really bothers me.

    See, I look at it like this. If a human were to run up to me aggressively I would be reacting viscerally from the get-go. I'm not waiting to see how badly my children or I are going to be hurt before I start fighting back whether it's a person, a pet or a wild animal.
    Humans and dogs are not the same....at all. Anyway, i'm not saying that if the dog is clearly being an aggressor that its not okay to defend oneself...if you know how to properly do so, it would not include kicking the dog. But without that knowledge and working on instinct, sure i could see how one may kick a dog.

    But to act like there is something okay about threatening to kick a dog that is with its owner, merely because its on a long leash seems pretty awful to me. And really....kicking a dog that has not proven to be a threat is more likely to escalate a situation that may have never existed in the first place. Plus its just disrespectful and mean.

    But like I also said before, that has never happened. I've never kicked a dog. I've never told my kids to kick a dog. No dog has ever aggressively approached me. I'm only talking in hypothetical.
    Maybe you and I are talking about two different things. It seemed to be presented in this thread that kicking a dog is a good preemptive defense, whether you know the dog is a threat or not...just because they scare you.

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    I kicked a dog. I was out running one day and was pushing my baby in the jogging stroller. A dog came running out, barking, ran right through his electric fence, and went right at my baby in the stroller. Damn straight I kicked him, while yelling. His owner was running out behind him, screaming, and I was yelling to get her EFFING dog off of my baby while I kicked her dog ~ her dog was attacking my defenseless infant.

    we also had an interesting encounter two weeks ago. We were meeting friends for breakfast on a sunday morning. We were crossing the street at a 4 way stop in town. Our friends were already at the restaurant and we were waving to them as we crossed the street. I was walking ahead of my husband, holding onto my daughters hand. between us was a couple walking a pit bull on a leash. My husband was holding the boys hands behind me. We were in the middle of the street and the pit bull jumped on my youngest (2) knocking him TO THE GROUND in the middle of the road. My husband was LIVID, I swear he almost jumped the dog owner, had be been that sort of guy he would have. No baby deserves to be knocked to the ground in the middle of the street. If a dog is on a leash it still needs to be under control. I was so pissed.

    I've never heard of "outdoor dogs" before living in Alabama for a stint. I don't understand it, personally, and yes, it seems unusual. Maybe on a working farm or something, but generally I think that it is not kind.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Potter75 View Post

    I've never heard of "outdoor dogs" before living in Alabama for a stint. I don't understand it, personally, and yes, it seems unusual. Maybe on a working farm or something, but generally I think that it is not kind.
    This is interesting to me. I grew up in NY and having outside dogs was very common. I wonder if it is a City vs. Rural thing? The part of NY I am from is country. Outside dogs are also common here.

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    I don't live in the city. Maybe it's a socioeconomic thing.

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    I don't live in the city and I know people who keep dogs and cats outdoors. I still think it's mean.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KimPossible View Post

    Maybe you and I are talking about two different things. It seemed to be presented in this thread that kicking a dog is a good preemptive defense, whether you know the dog is a threat or not...just because they scare you.
    Well, I've already said twice what I'm referring to and it's something that has never happened to me. Regardless, I would still never feel guilty for kicking something or someone who is going to physically harm myself or my children. If that makes me mean or disrespectful to the vicious creature so be it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Potter75 View Post
    I kicked a dog. I was out running one day and was pushing my baby in the jogging stroller. A dog came running out, barking, ran right through his electric fence, and went right at my baby in the stroller. Damn straight I kicked him, while yelling. His owner was running out behind him, screaming, and I was yelling to get her EFFING dog off of my baby while I kicked her dog ~ her dog was attacking my defenseless infant.

    we also had an interesting encounter two weeks ago. We were meeting friends for breakfast on a sunday morning. We were crossing the street at a 4 way stop in town. Our friends were already at the restaurant and we were waving to them as we crossed the street. I was walking ahead of my husband, holding onto my daughters hand. between us was a couple walking a pit bull on a leash. My husband was holding the boys hands behind me. We were in the middle of the street and the pit bull jumped on my youngest (2) knocking him TO THE GROUND in the middle of the road. My husband was LIVID, I swear he almost jumped the dog owner, had be been that sort of guy he would have. No baby deserves to be knocked to the ground in the middle of the street. If a dog is on a leash it still needs to be under control. I was so pissed.

    I've never heard of "outdoor dogs" before living in Alabama for a stint. I don't understand it, personally, and yes, it seems unusual. Maybe on a working farm or something, but generally I think that it is not kind.
    I don't think there is anything wrong with fending off an actual attack. Was that dog little? I can't imagine kicking a big dog being effective nor recommended if its large.

    Trust me my argument is not 'never be mean to a dog'.
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