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    Quote Originally Posted by Spacers View Post
    I'm not so sure that many people who are paying for private school are also donating funds to public education.
    My point is why does it matter if they send them to private school or not. "I'm not so sure anyone with a decent amount of disposable income is donating any extra of it to public schools, at the sacrifice of other things they would rather have or do"

    And really, what are you basing that on? And what does it matter, if wealthy parents who don't use private school also don't bother to donate.

    Lets just take the private school out of it.


    Parents choose private school for all kinds of things that private schools offer -- religious education, dual language immersion, Waldorf philosophy -- and that's their right and I would totally pursue those options if they were important to me. Around here, and this might be particular to S.F. because of how our school assignment system works, it seems that many parents choose private school because of what their assigned public school doesn't offer -- no arts, no music, no garden, no tutoring services, no after-school care. Eight years ago our school had none of those things; now we do, because with committed parents willing to donate time and/or money to their kids' public school, the community *can* do a lot for *all* the kids. I'm not saying parents shouldn't choose private school; I just question -- as it sounds like the woman in that video, which I can't see, is questioning -- whether more of these parents who have the means shouldn't be looking at the bigger picture of being a good community supporter, and not just a good parent to their own kids.
    Yeah but if the school is not that way WHILE my kids are there for those particular years, i'm going to send them to the places that do have those things if i can afford it. That doesn't mean i can't spend any time or money trying to improve my community and its schools some other way for future generations. And while my own kid might be worth the whatever amount of money i invest in a private school, that wouldn't necessarily mean i'd spend the same exact amount on improving the situation of other children. Other children are important yes, but they are not as important as my own kids are to me

    It just doesn't seem like a reasonable thing to speculate about. Its unrealistic, not a very 'real life' speculation.
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    I am with Kim on this one. Dh and I work actively in our community to help children (Dh teaches at public schools, he has been offered plenty of positions at private schools) We do donate to help the public schools, even while paying for private school.
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    This may sound very selfish, but ultimately my kids are going to come first for me. I would not expect anyone else to put my kids before their own either.
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    You should! I don't think that is selfish.

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    I think it would be unhealthy/ unattached to NOT say that.
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    I do not think it is selfish either. I have a SIL that believes that everyone should send their kids to public school so as to improve the local school. She believes that if everyone sent their children to public schools, then the public schools would so improve for everyone. I disagree that we should sacrifice the education of our children now, so the children 10 years from now can have a better education.

    It would be nice if everyone could afford to send their child to the school of their choice and that all of the public schools were well funded. In a perfect world it would be that way. That said, there is no way I am sending my kids to the schools that they are zoned for. If there came a point in time that we decided to send them to public school (and DH did not work in a neighboring school that they could go to), we would move into a better school system. If that makes me selfish, then so be it.

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    The other thing that I disagree with this message is that I think she is taking away some of the responsibilities from parents. If parents do not maintain an environment that is conducive to learning, then no amount of money is going to fix the problem. If parents do not do things like help their kids with homework, or make sure their kids are at school (and on time) then again, school is not going to be as effective for that child or any of the other kids in the class.
    Communities should help with better schools, but parents really have to be the front line on what their kids does in school.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mom3girls View Post
    I am with Kim on this one. Dh and I work actively in our community to help children (Dh teaches at public schools, he has been offered plenty of positions at private schools) We do donate to help the public schools, even while paying for private school.
    Around here most public schools pay about 2-3 times what private schools pay, is it that way in your area? People actually get annoyed when a public school teacher has their child in private school ~ its seen as "not believing in the system". My kids Kindy teacher has her three kids in catholic school and there has been a lot of comments made about it amongst the parents. My very best friends husband is an elementary school principal and its a huge issue for them as ideally he would like to send their son to the Christian school that we went to ~ but it will be a big issue if he does so.

    And Bonita you have mentioned how terrible/dangerous your school district is and how incredibly cheap your mortgage is and how slightly unsafe your area is (in the leaving your kids in the car debate). I'm sure that thats all related. In choosing to live somewhere where your community has a low tax base/very low cost of living, your family can afford to have you at home teaching your own children, with your family investing little in your community. Your sister in law has a point that that isn't helping other kids education or lives get better, and it would be interesting to see if your family would be able to maintain your quality of life or continue to have one parent home with a parent working two jobs in a community with good schools and a higher cost of living.
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    The school where my oldest goes pays about 90% of what public pays, but then teaching staff gets free tuition so it would kind of be a wash as far as money. As of right now Dh wants to teach at public, even with all the problems at schools he wants to be a part of the solution
    I am not sure what people think of teachers that have their kids in private school when they teach at public. All 3 of the principals that Dh has had while teaching (one is now taking over some position at district office next year) have had their kids in private school. I am sure there would be some people not happy with it, but I have never heard any of that.
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    It depends on the kind of private school. You have small religious schools that are affordable for the average person to go to, that do not pay their teachers very well. There are also private prep schools that cost $20-30K a year. They obviously pay their teachers better.
    Last edited by AlyssaEimers; 04-09-2013 at 06:51 PM. Reason: typo

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