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    Quote Originally Posted by freddieflounder101 View Post
    I don't think it's about giving money to the public schools. Who does that, on an individual level?

    I also think that if the public schools around you are terrible, then of course you send your kids to private school. We must look out for our own kids, no one's suggesting we abdicate responsibility.

    But we, collectively, should think bigger. Think about our kids as a generation instead of just grabbing what we can for ourselves. Work with other parents towards better programs in our public schools.

    I am lucky to live in a community where parents are very involved (sometimes over-involved I think but that's another debate). We have a lunchtime enrichment program that parents contribute to, the PTA funds a ton of activities as well as supplies for the classrooms, they do fundraisers for smartboards, etc. Some contribute time instead of money.

    I don't have a practical answer for how to fix the system, but I think step one is a shift in thinking, which is exactly what she's talking about.
    Not sure how it works there but our local school does fundraisers all the time.. so I not only give more in taxes to school other peoples children than I pay to school my own, but I also donate and help with these fundraisers.. I also though we homeschool donate to the local private school also.. Not sure what you intended to mean. But I am sure lots of people donate time or money INDIVIDUALLY to the local school either public or private other than their taxes which are not donation but mandatory... whether they send their child to that school or not.
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    American gals....What do you pay annually for your kid to be in public school?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ClairesMommy View Post
    American gals....What do you pay annually for your kid to be in public school?
    It depends on your areas taxes. And then some federal taxes go to schools, so it is kind of hard to say exactly.
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    Yes, PS is paid for out of my taxes to my town (and as Lisa said federal taxes as well). I don't know exactly what % goes to the school as it is just lumped into taxes. My town has a low tax rate compared to others in the state. but we have basic services; police, fire, regional school system. We don't have sewer, water or have trash pickup.

    Oh, we also don't pay for our kids to use the bus. That is still "free"
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    You know, when I first read the OP, I was not in tune with the notion that what she said was controversial at all.

    We don't have a tv or cable. We stream shows or netflix videos that we want to. . . so I think I may also be missing more of the puzzle. I typed the title and controversy into google and it looked like a mess of 'conservative' pundits took what was said in the video and went nutso.

    I am a bit stymied. I didn't think what the gal said in the video was socialistic at all. She was talking about collective responsibility to pursue the best educational system we can. That is merely thoughtful.

    I am sure that I believe that people who put their kids into private schools do not have a responsibility to spend equal monies of the private tuition that they will pay, as a donation to public education. Although, I do believe that they should still pay the same property taxes that support the school district that their kids won't attend, just like elderly people or childless people should.

    Proposing that people should make the choice (through ballot measures or referendums) to fund education for the benefit of society, that that should be a thing that we hold to be a good value is in no way intrinsically socialist. And if it is, then maybe I am a bit ok with a bit of socialism.

    Or maybe she was just pointing out that it is best to think about the idea that education is important. And that we can make it really good or we can make choices that make public education continue to suck in many, many areas of our country.

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    Here is my simple philosophy, we should do things that help. Approach everything with love in your heart.

    Do your best. That is what matters. I am sad that private schools sometimes outpace pubic schools.

    If you live in a sinkhole of education. . . I don't know what you can do except leave.

    That is what gives me nightmares.
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    Sorry, what I meant by donation was the idea that someone would just take money and hand it over to the school, different from fundraisers. I was picturing someone putting their kid in private school and then donating cash randomly to the public schools, which seemed weird and unlikely to me. People with kids in the school system contribute all the time, and often others participate in local events/fundraisers. I was confused by the idea of straight donations, like you would to a charity.
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    Quote Originally Posted by freddieflounder101 View Post
    Sorry, what I meant by donation was the idea that someone would just take money and hand it over to the school, different from fundraisers. I was picturing someone putting their kid in private school and then donating cash randomly to the public schools, which seemed weird and unlikely to me. People with kids in the school system contribute all the time, and often others participate in local events/fundraisers. I was confused by the idea of straight donations, like you would to a charity.
    This is what i was picturing too, since the suggested donation was really high. Like I've never heard of someone spending a private schools tuitions worth of money on fundraisers, so i figured we were talking about making an actual donation to the school.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ClairesMommy View Post
    American gals....What do you pay annually for your kid to be in public school?
    We are a small community. We pay 500-600 a year. Over twice what I pay to homeschool both my kids per year.. I typically spend about $200 a year to homeschool them.. if we are just considering Materials etc... this doesn't include loss of supposed income.. Unfortunately though I can't work right now because of physical issues so that is not a money factor right now.. meaning even if I wasn't homeschooling I wouldn't be working, due to health issues .
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    Quote Originally Posted by bunnyfufu View Post
    You know, when I first read the OP, I was not in tune with the notion that what she said was controversial at all.

    We don't have a tv or cable. We stream shows or netflix videos that we want to. . . so I think I may also be missing more of the puzzle. I typed the title and controversy into google and it looked like a mess of 'conservative' pundits took what was said in the video and went nutso.

    I am a bit stymied. I didn't think what the gal said in the video was socialistic at all. She was talking about collective responsibility to pursue the best educational system we can. That is merely thoughtful.

    I am sure that I believe that people who put their kids into private schools do not have a responsibility to spend equal monies of the private tuition that they will pay, as a donation to public education. Although, I do believe that they should still pay the same property taxes that support the school district that their kids won't attend, just like elderly people or childless people should.

    Proposing that people should make the choice (through ballot measures or referendums) to fund education for the benefit of society, that that should be a thing that we hold to be a good value is in no way intrinsically socialist. And if it is, then maybe I am a bit ok with a bit of socialism.

    Or maybe she was just pointing out that it is best to think about the idea that education is important. And that we can make it really good or we can make choices that make public education continue to suck in many, many areas of our country.
    "Collective Responsibility" is in definition Socialist.. Not that it is necessarily ALL bad .
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