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    Quote Originally Posted by AlyssaEimers View Post
    The guy is clearly a nut.

    That said, I do think abortion should be illegal even in the case of rape. Before I get all kinds of outcrys let me explain. Raps is a terrible awful experience. I do not think going through another terrible awful experience is the answer. There are many things in life that we did not ask for that we have to do anyway. Pay for taxes for one. We just had a debate that you have to pay taxes to support public schools whether or not you want to for the good of society. Killing an unborn baby will not take away the horrible thing that has happened. It would never be acceptable to kill a 1 year old baby regardless of the reason.

    My only exception would be a very young child (8or9) that the life of the child was in question or an etopic pg where the life of the mother was in question. I believe these special cercomstances to be very rare.
    I agree with you that all abortion should be illegal except when the life of the mother is in danger. However since I don't think that would ever pass legislation I wouldn't have a problem with letting them include that reason since that is only 1% of abortions. Think of all the other babies that would be saved.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AlyssaEimers View Post
    The guy is clearly a nut.

    That said, I do think abortion should be illegal even in the case of rape. Before I get all kinds of outcrys let me explain. Raps is a terrible awful experience. I do not think going through another terrible awful experience is the answer. There are many things in life that we did not ask for that we have to do anyway. Pay for taxes for one. We just had a debate that you have to pay taxes to support public schools whether or not you want to for the good of society. Killing an unborn baby will not take away the horrible thing that has happened. It would never be acceptable to kill a 1 year old baby regardless of the reason.

    My only exception would be a very young child (8or9) that the life of the child was in question or an etopic pg where the life of the mother was in question. I believe these special cercomstances to be very rare.
    Are you kidding me? You're comparing rape, carrying the resulting fetus to term and the decision of adoption or raising a child to paying taxes?

    I don't carry an emotional albatross over paying taxes. I choose to get a job. In the case of rape, not only did I not choose to have sex, I didn't choose to get pregnant.

    Exactly how many decisions do other people get to make when it comes to the reproduction rights?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ethanwinfield View Post
    Are you kidding me? You're comparing rape, carrying the resulting fetus to term and the decision of adoption or raising a child to paying taxes?

    I don't carry an emotional albatross over paying taxes. I choose to get a job. In the case of rape, not only did I not choose to have sex, I didn't choose to get pregnant.

    Exactly how many decisions do other people get to make when it comes to the reproduction rights?
    Why should an innocent child be condemned to death due to the actions of his/her father?
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    Quote Originally Posted by GloriaInTX View Post
    I agree with you that all abortion should be illegal except when the life of the mother is in danger. However since I don't think that would ever pass legislation I wouldn't have a problem with letting them include that reason since that is only 1% of abortions. Think of all the other babies that would be saved.
    We will never know the true number. Rape is one of the most under-reported crimes.

    How can you be okay with aborting a fetus conceived from rape? How are you willing to allow even 1 out of 100 (if those numbers are accurate) to be aborted? Is that where you stand on issues in your life or on crime?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ethanwinfield View Post
    We will never know the true number. Rape is one of the most under-reported crimes.

    How can you be okay with aborting a fetus conceived from rape? How are you willing to allow even 1 out of 100 (if those numbers are accurate) to be aborted? Is that where you stand on issues in your life or on crime?
    I didn't say I was ok with it. I said if it meant that if 99 children would live that is better than the 100 children that are killed right now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GloriaInTX View Post
    I agree with you that all abortion should be illegal except when the life of the mother is in danger. However since I don't think that would ever pass legislation I wouldn't have a problem with letting them include that reason since that is only 1% of abortions. Think of all the other babies that would be saved.
    Quote Originally Posted by GloriaInTX View Post
    Why should an innocent child be condemned to death due to the actions of his/her father?
    I guess I just don't understand your position.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GloriaInTX View Post
    I didn't say I was ok with it. I said if it meant that if 99 children would live that is better than the 100 children that are killed right now.
    Again, I'm confused. The "100" would be 100%?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ethanwinfield View Post
    Again, I'm confused. The "100" would be 100%?
    Yes. 99 of every 100 children that are killed right this minute are killed for reasons other than rape. So to save those 99 children I would be willing to allow rape to be included even though I don't agree it should be a valid reason.

    ETA: That doesn't mean I would stop advocating that rape shouldn't be included as a reason. Just that would be a step in the right direction.
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    I am not saying having to pay taxes is as bad as tape. I am saying there are some thing in life you have to do that you don't want to or don't like.

    I do agree some abortion reform is better than no abortion reform.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AlyssaEimers View Post
    The guy is clearly a nut.

    That said, I do think abortion should be illegal even in the case of rape. Before I get all kinds of outcrys let me explain. Raps is a terrible awful experience. I do not think going through another terrible awful experience is the answer. There are many things in life that we did not ask for that we have to do anyway. Pay for taxes for one. We just had a debate that you have to pay taxes to support public schools whether or not you want to for the good of society. Killing an unborn baby will not take away the horrible thing that has happened. It would never be acceptable to kill a 1 year old baby regardless of the reason.

    My only exception would be a very young child (8or9) that the life of the child was in question or an etopic pg where the life of the mother was in question. I believe these special cercomstances to be very rare.
    You're assuming that an abortion is more traumatic to the rape victim than carrying her rapist's baby for 9 months and then deciding whether to keep it or give it away, and having everyone ask her about it all the time, and know that the baby in her body wouldn't be there if she hadn't been raped? That sounds pretty awful to me....
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