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    Default List of LGBT friendly churches from a college?

    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011...ndly-churches/

    Do you think that this is a service that schools should provide, a waste of taxpayer/student money, or something in between?

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    If they are providing other lists of helpful information for their students to get settled into life in the community, like cheap restaurants or laundromats close to off-campus housing, then sure, I have no problem with them putting out a list of gay-friendly churches in the area. If this is the only list they've compiled, it seems odd but not really a waste of resources. I actually think it's a good use of resources because students who feel connected to their community, whether that community is religious or gay or both, will likely be better students.
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    The article is a little muddy on this point, but I *think* that this list was put out by the LGBT office. That's like, the whole point of the LGBT office, to provide resources and support to LGBT students. I honestly think that the guy that raised the red flag on this (Adams) has a chip on his shoulder and it sounds like he just has a problem with the LGBT Alliance in general. From the article:

    Travis Barham, who worked on the Georgia case as part of the conservative Alliance Defense Fund, which has defended Adams in a court battle with the university over a promotion he claims he was wrongly denied, said he's not sure whether the University of North Carolina Wilmington is in danger of a similar violation.

    But Barham questioned whether it was appropriate for the university to put out such a guide.

    "Whether they're promoting denominations or whether they're promoting individual churches ... that's not the business of a university," Barham said.

    Adams, who wrote about the church guide in an online column Monday, has previously called for the abolition of the LGBT group as well as several other identity-related groups on campus. He said the university guide probably has not crossed the legal line, but the university should stop distributing it anyway.


    Because the Alliance Defense Fund (
    http://www.alliancedefensefund.org/) was involved in Adams' lawsuit about his own promotion, I am assuming that it had something to do with him talking about religion in his classes.

    I'm guessing that his angle is that if he can't recommend churches in his classroom, the LGBT shouldn't be recommending churches (particularly ones that go against his own ideology) either. I disagree though, since the LGBT is an extracurricular at the college. I am guessing that the college probably also has some sort of Christian club that is also allowed to talk religion, (not to mention a Jewish club, et cetera.) I know that my university had all sorts of religious coalitions on campus, which was totally fine - that is different than a teacher preaching their own religion in class IMO.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Spacers View Post
    If they are providing other lists of helpful information for their students to get settled into life in the community, like cheap restaurants or laundromats close to off-campus housing, then sure, I have no problem with them putting out a list of gay-friendly churches in the area. If this is the only list they've compiled, it seems odd but not really a waste of resources. I actually think it's a good use of resources because students who feel connected to their community, whether that community is religious or gay or both, will likely be better students.
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    I fail to see how anything helpful can be a waste of taxpayers' money?

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    I don't see a problem with it since it was included in a list of local resources. It isn't like they did a list that was just churches.
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    This whole thing is laughable. Would he be pissed at a list of churhes put out by the Hispanic Student Union of churches who have mass in Spanish? Or which Jewish Congregations embrace interfaith families?

    The fact is religion is about messages and morals and codesof which to live your life. Each religion sees it differently and each house of worship does as well. So I don't see what is so wrong with calling a spade a spade and coming out and saying it. if a church embraces a message against gay rights and against being gay, I think people deserve to know that. And if a church has a problem with someone making that known then maybe it's because they know they are wrong or why else would they object?

    The only thing I would question is how they decided what churches were "gay friendly".

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    I don't see a problem with it at all. I do wonder, like culturedmom asked, how they know what churches are "gay friendly?" I often wonder about these churches, and if they actually teach from the Bible? Are they certain denominations? I only ask because technically in the bible it clearly says that homosexuality is an abomination in the eyes of God, and I wonder how they can feel comfortable going to a church that teaches out of the Bible when it says something like that? Or are they choosing which parts of the Bible they agree with and which parts they choose to ignore? I'm Christian (nondenominational), and although I don't necessarily agree with their lifestyles personally, I have no problem with the GLTB community having all of the rights and freedoms that the rest of us do, because we're all human and deserve that. My chuch welcomes people from all walks of life, including gays, but that doesn't mean that they're going to chop up the Bible and only talk about the parts they think should be talked about.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Starryblue702 View Post
    I don't see a problem with it at all. I do wonder, like culturedmom asked, how they know what churches are "gay friendly?" I often wonder about these churches, and if they actually teach from the Bible? Are they certain denominations? I only ask because technically in the bible it clearly says that homosexuality is an abomination in the eyes of God, and I wonder how they can feel comfortable going to a church that teaches out of the Bible when it says something like that? Or are they choosing which parts of the Bible they agree with and which parts they choose to ignore? I'm Christian (nondenominational), and although I don't necessarily agree with their lifestyles personally, I have no problem with the GLTB community having all of the rights and freedoms that the rest of us do, because we're all human and deserve that. My chuch welcomes people from all walks of life, including gays, but that doesn't mean that they're going to chop up the Bible and only talk about the parts they think should be talked about.
    So are you saying that you follow the direct word of the Bible to the letter? Completely?

    In my opinion, only G-d knows what He really meant. The minute man started reading and writing the Bible/Torah it strayed from true meaning into interpretation. You no more or less interpret the Bible then anyone else, IMO.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Starryblue702 View Post
    My chuch welcomes people from all walks of life, including gays, but that doesn't mean that they're going to chop up the Bible and only talk about the parts they think should be talked about.
    So by "welcomes them" do you mean that they preach that they are an abomination and living in sin and going to hell? That sort of thing? Or do they actually welcome them and practice the whole "Judge not lest you be judged" as very clearly stated in the Bible?

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