Mainlanders in Hong Kong?

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Mainlanders in Hong Kong?

Would you cross a border to give birth to more than one child? Or to access better healthcare for your unborn child and you?

http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/story/2012-02-14/chinese-mainland-pregnant-women-hong-kong/53159886/1

One of the biggest controversies is the tide of pregnant mainlanders flooding city hospitals to get around China's one-child policy, or to give their children access to the health and educational benefits that come with Hong Kong citizenship. Last year, about 41,000 mainlanders gave birth in Hong Kong hospitals, accounting for nearly half of total births in the city.

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Absolutely I would. In a hot second. Which is why I've developed empathy for those who do the same here from Mexico. I get it.

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Absolutely. And I will outright say that I don't believe anyone who says they wouldn't.

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I don't *think* i would purposely plan a pregnancy with this idea in mind. I say think because i mean there are so many differences in that scenario and my existing scenario that its really hard to tell.

But if i accidentally found myself pregnant? Yes.

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BTW, I do not know enough to know if this tells the whole story. If I am not mistaken, it is not all of China that has the one-child rule. And I can't imagine someone on the "mainland" who is poor, being able to go to Hong Kong and give birth and live. So I am not going to pretend like I know enough to make a judgment on this story.

My answer was just to the question would I cross a border to save my child (whether that meant give birth freely, give them food and water, or have the opportunity to be educated and have a future). To that my answer if HELLZ YES!!!!!!!

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Lana, what do you mean by 'save your child'

They tax you severely if you have more than one child....which i know, could prove to be a serious hardship for those who are poor and indirectly bring harm to the child in one way or another. But my understanding from a coworker very familiar with chinese culture...and our co-workers who work or worked in our China office is that if you have more than one child the consequence is a very high tax.

FTR, our office is in Beijing so i don't know if that makes a difference or not. And i do not know a lot about this subject either.

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"KimPossible" wrote:

Lana, what do you mean by 'save your child'

They tax you severely if you have more than one child....which i know, could prove to be a serious hardship for those who are poor and indirectly bring harm to the child in one way or another. But my understanding from a coworker very familiar with chinese culture...and our co-workers who work or worked in our China office is that if you have more than one child the consequence is a very high tax.

FTR, our office is in Beijing so i don't know if that makes a difference or not. And i do not know a lot about this subject either.

Not knowing enough about the situation, I can't answer that Kim. The little I have read and seen in documentaries seems that the tax can be so hi on people that it can bring them to a point where they cannot take care of their families. If I had a child and in doing os meant that I could no longer afford shelter, food, education, or health care for my family because of a tax, then that would warrant the use of the word "save". Again, I don't know a lot about this particular situation but only answered the question posed in the op. Would I cross a border for health care or to give birth and my answer is if it was the only way, then yes.

I can't imagine that these people are picking up and moving right before they give birth just because they think the rooms in the Hong Kong hospital are better decorated.

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As I understand it, there are many reasons they choose to give birth in HK. These reasons range from wanting their children to have Hong Kong citizenship (more freedoms) and access to better healthcare in HK.

Here is more on the one child policy:
The one-child policy relies on a mix of sticks and carrots. Depending on where they live, couples can be fined thousands of dollars for having a supernumerary child without a permit, and reports of forced abortions or sterilization are common. (Blind rural activist Chen Guangcheng made international headlines in 2005 for exposing just such a campaign by family-planning officials in Eastern China; he was later imprisoned on charges his supporters say were retaliatory.) The law also offers longer maternity leave and other benefits to couples that delay childbearing. Those who volunteer to have only one child are awarded a "Certificate of Honor for Single-Child Parents." Since 1979, the law has prevented some 250 million births, saving China from a population explosion the nation would have difficulty accommodating.

Read more: http://www.time.com/time/world/article/0,8599,1912861,00.html#ixzz1niCGUnEz

That TIME article is really interesting.....

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Yes, I definitely would. I agree with Melissa and Lana.