The one thing I just can't get past is the use of the verb play. Do you usually "play" with BB guns or air soft guns? I don't associate that word with any type of guns. It just seems to minimize the purpose of any guns really.
As for the picture, yeah the way he is holding the gun isn't safe. If the girl wiggles at all the gun could go off. There could be a pet at the foot of the chair or a young child.
And I agree, if that were my X, I would definitely use that against him in court.
Have you seen photos of police officers holding babies and brandishing weapons? I haven't. The guns are holstered and locked.
The right to own a gun does not give you the right to be irresponsible with the gun. I don't believe that holding a gun and a baby in this manner is "responsible gun ownership". The police obviously agreed as they arrested him.
Isn't it the gun owners always talking about how "responsible" all gun owners are? So why when we see someone acting in what appears to be an IRResponsible manner, you still make excuses from them.
We might as well call a spade a spade. The 2nd amendment or bust crew will not argue for any limitations on any guns ever. Not for background checks to screen out criminals or mentally ill people, not for limitations on morons holding guns and squirmy babies......nothing. So as their position is completely not open in any way to actual logical debate or reason, I marvel at the fact that they continue to "debate" the subject. Even the Sandy hook thing proved it. First it was because of drugs and mentally ill kids. Then when Obama tried to address that it she OPPOSED background checks and the problem was the gangs and inner cities. Then single mothers. Its a joke.
As to abortion.... again, bringing in an unrelated topic to a loaded topic, something I thought you told us all to not do several debates ago? Yes it is legal to have an abortion. It is not legal to have an abortion in the middle of a daycare center, you would be charged with indecency and all sorts of laws. So something being legal does not give it carte blanch, that ought to be obvious, no?
Last edited by Potter75; 01-29-2013 at 09:30 PM.
Growing up I was never allowed to have toy guns. Not a water gun or any other kind of gun. My mother did not allow them in the house. We had real guns, but not toy guns. She did not want us to mix up the two. While that was our family rule, it is not illegal to have toy guns and many people do.
I don't care if it was a paint ball gun, it's still dangerous and can hurt!! Even a hose can be dangerous at high water pressure.
I cant get past how bad the picture looks. I cant imagine have a baby and a gun in the same picture.
DHs uncle is a state cop and a consultant with the FBI, he takes my oldest to the range (she is actually learning to use a high powered bow and arrow) but he is super careful with all weapons when any of my other children are there.
Molly, Morgan, Mia and Carson
The point was made that it's legal for him to hold the gun, and my point was that two completely separate things that are legal don't necessarily mean that the combination of them is legal. Drinking & driving are one example where each thing is legal, but they aren't legal together. But either way, it doesn't have to be illegal to be child endangerment, it just has to be dangerous. Which this was.
David Letterman is retiring. Such great memories of watching him over the past thirty-two years!
And while I probably wouldnt use the word 'play' it doesnt surprise me that others may use that term for target practice if it is something they enjoy.
Mom to Arianna (5), Conner (3) and Trent (my baby)