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    Does this state funded website go too far in making an abortion sound like no big deal?

    A state-funded sex education Web site that tells teens an abortion is “much easier than it sounds” has drawn fire from outraged pro-lifers who say mariatalks.com is glossing over ugly truths, steering teens toward the controversial procedure and counseling them how to keep mom and dad in the dark.

    “The commonwealth is using taxpayer money to tell kids how to get a secret abortion, and that’s wrong,” said Linda Thayer, a former Boston schoolteacher who is vice president for educational affairs of Massachusetts Citizens for Life, which this week took aim at the site.

    “This is a misuse of state funds, especially for parents who are taxpayers,” said Thayer, who also blasted the Web site for “deception by omission” for describing abortion simply as “when the contents of the womb (uterus) are removed.”

    Mariatalks.com, featuring fictional hip teen “Maria,” who addresses teens in a breezy tone, has been produced since 2008 by the AIDS Action Committee with $100,000 annual grants from the state Department of Public Health. The money also covers a sex-crisis hotline and other outreach efforts.

    AIDS Action Committee chief Rebecca Haag, in a statement defending the Web site, said, “We feel strongly that the issues that are addressed through the Maria Talks Web site are essential in safeguarding the general, sexual health of youth by informing them of their risk for unintended pregnancies, HIV and other sexually transmitted infections.”

    Maria tells teen readers abortion is a “hot topic” but that the procedure is “more common than you might think” and “safe and effective, though some people may experience temporary discomfort.” The site’s discussion of risk is limited to advising that it is better to get an abortion sooner rather than later.

    Planned Parenthood declined to comment on the language used by mariatalks.com. However, the abortion provider’s own Internet abortion advice includes a lengthy list of potential health risks — such as “infection,” “blood-clotting,” “injury to the cervix or other organs,” and “an incomplete abortion.”

    In another segment, Maria says to Massachusetts teens, “The reality of getting an abortion is much easier than it sounds here.” In contrast, a more cautionary Maria counsels on another page that adoption “can be pretty tough for some people, especially emotionally.”

    Of conflicted feelings over abortion, Maria counsels that one of her fictional friends found it a “difficult decision” but decided the procedure was the “best choice . . . for herself, her boyfriend, her family and her future.”

    Of bypassing parental approval, Maria says, “It may be really hard for you to imagine talking to either your parents or a judge about getting an abortion, but there are people who can help you through it.”

    By comparison, Planned Parenthood explicitly states, “Teens are encouraged to involve parents in their decision.”

    Under state law, children under 18 seeking an abortion must have permission from a parent or a guardian. Maria notes that state law allows minors to skirt that approval through a confidential judicial hearing, saying, “I know it sounds crazy . . . this really can be done and young women do this all the time here in Massachusetts.”

    The site then directs teens to Planned Parenthood, saying that agency will either help them talk to parents or provide a lawyer to guide them through the judicial process.

    NARAL Pro-Choice America Executive Director Andrea Miller called Maria Talks “terrific.”

    “It’s really a complete and medically accurate set of information,” Miller said. “I’m impressed that the state has provided this information in a youth-friendly, nonjudgmental manner.”

    State health officials had no immediate comment on the controversy over the site yesterday.

    Meanwhile, Charles Skidmore, principal of Arlington High School, where a Maria Talks poster hangs in the nurse’s office, said, “I’m assuming because it’s from the Department of Public Health, it’s balanced information. There’s so much information available now, at least this has someone standing behind it that is a state-sponsored organization.”
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    Did you look at the website, Gloria? I don't think the tone of that article is right at all. The abortion information is accurate and well explained, just like the adoption and parenting information. Also, the abortion page is a TINY part of this site, which is filled with sexual assault information. This website looks great to me.

    ETA: As an aside, the person who said this site teaches you how to get a secret abortion is an idiot. This website does no such thing anywhere I could find, unless you consider informing people of the law teaching them how to get secret abortions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CalBearInBoston View Post
    Did you look at the website, Gloria? I don't think the tone of that article is right at all. The abortion information is accurate and well explained, just like the adoption and parenting information. Also, the abortion page is a TINY part of this site, which is filled with sexual assault information. This website looks great to me.

    ETA: As an aside, the person who said this site teaches you how to get a secret abortion is an idiot. This website does no such thing anywhere I could find, unless you consider informing people of the law teaching them how to get secret abortions.
    Yes actually, I did. Everything the article said I saw represented in that way on the site. It absolutely makes abortion and not getting parental consent sound like it is some trivial thing. What part did they misrepresent?


    Can I get an abortion in Massachusetts if I’m under 18?
    Ok, I totally know that this information can sound pretty intimidating and overwhelming, but I promise you the reality of getting an abortion is much easier than it sounds here. It may be really hard for you to imagine talking to either your parents or a judge about getting an abortion, but there are people who can help you through it.

    If a woman is under age 18, has never been married and decides she wants to have an abortion, Massachusetts law requires both her consent, and either (1) the consent of one parent or legal guardian, or (2) authorization by a judge.

    Again, I know it sounds crazy, but just keep reading . . . this really can be done and young women do this all the time here in Massachusetts.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GloriaInTX View Post
    Yes actually, I did. Everything I the article said I saw represented in that way on the site. It absolutely makes abortion and not getting parental consent sound like it is some trivial thing. What part did they misrepresent?
    Well, I think this website represents the reality of abortion quite fairly. I think the author of the article is totally off base talking about secret abortions or glossing over truth. It talks about abortion factually, just like it does parenting and adoption. It doesn't dismiss adoption and the article happened to leave this part out:
    From what I’ve heard, going through this process can be pretty tough for some people, especially emotionally. Agencies will provide resources and support for people who are having a rough time and will help them get through it. There is also support for anyone close to you who may also be affected by the decision.
    Abortion is common, they give the stats. It is easy to get an abortion in Massachusetts, there are lots of providers. Early abortions do have less risk than later term abortions. Those things are just factually true. Do you object to them offering resources for people to help girls speak to their parents about having an abortion? Do you object to the site telling girls how to receive legal help if they need it? The abortion page also says this:
    It is your right to decide what to do without feeling judged, pressured or criticized. This is an important decision that you have to make based on your own situation. What may make sense for someone else may not make sense for you. Call the Sexual Health Helpline at (877) MA-SEX-ED (877) 627-3933 for help. We can provide you with information and support to help you make the decision that’s right for you with absolutely NO PRESSURE either way.
    The only "problem" I see with the site is that it provides factual information without stigma. Good for the state of Massachusetts. That is how it should be.

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    I'm totally with you on this one, Gloria. They do make it sound like it's not a big deal at all since teens there do it all the time. The way I read it sounds like they make the issue very trivial since it's just the removal of "contents" and really can be a secret if that's what they want. I sure would like the stats they came up with to say that 25% of women have had an abortion by the time they reached 40. Is that for their state only since everyone's doing it all the time?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Beertje View Post
    I'm totally with you on this one, Gloria. They do make it sound like it's not a big deal at all since teens there do it all the time. The way I read it sounds like they make the issue very trivial since it's just the removal of "contents" and really can be a secret if that's what they want. I sure would like the stats they came up with to say that 25% of women have had an abortion by the time they reached 40. Is that for their state only since everyone's doing it all the time?
    Do you think they're making this stuff up? This is well documented. Women do get abortions all the time and they tend to be very safe (early abortions are statistically much safer than childbirth).

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    So why then do they put this section for adoption, but not abortion? Adoption is tough for some people emotionally but abortion isn't? There is not ONE THING on the abortion page about it being emotional or tramatic, just how it is easy and everybody does it. The only slightly negative thing it says on the whole page is that it is a difficult decision, but for her friend it was the best thing.

    From what I’ve heard, going through this process can be pretty tough for some people, especially emotionally. Agencies will provide resources and support for people who are having a rough time and will help them get through it. There is also support for anyone close to you who may also be affected by the decision.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GloriaInTX View Post
    So why then do they put this section for adoption, but not abortion? Adoption is tough for some people emotionally but abortion isn't? There is not ONE THING on the abortion page about it being emotional or tramatic, just how it is easy and everybody does it. The only slightly negative thing it says on the whole page is that it is a difficult decision, but for her friend it was the best thing.
    By the time a teen get to this website, how many websites do you think she's been to that say how horrific and painful abortion is? Probably dozens. Is your argument that there isn't enough messaging out there about abortions being emotional or traumatic? Come on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CalBearInBoston View Post
    By the time a teen get to this website, how many websites do you think she's been to that say how horrific and painful abortion is? Probably dozens. Is your argument that there isn't enough messaging out there about abortions being emotional or traumatic? Come on.
    I really don't know, what difference does that make? We are talking about THIS State Sponsored website not a hundred others. So your argument is that since this website is not complete and makes things sound too easy she should go somewhere else for more information?
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    Quote Originally Posted by CalBearInBoston View Post
    Do you think they're making this stuff up? This is well documented. Women do get abortions all the time and they tend to be very safe (early abortions are statistically much safer than childbirth).
    Make what up? I question the stats. I have no clue if what they're saying is specific to their state or even a specific hospital or even if it includes spontaneous abortions (miscarriages), but interpretation of statistics may be altered to side with their POV. You know that.
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