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    Yes, I agree. I went clay pigeon (skeet) shooting with a rifle on a friends farm. It was HUGE! It shot two bullets, then you had to reload it. Talk about practicing your marksmanship! When it takes you 5 minutes between every two shots to reload, you treasure those 2 shots! It also would have been impossible to mow down 26 people with (any teacher could have physically overcome me while I reloaded) , and physically impossible to have committed suicide with. Trust me when I say I am not against people owning those type of weapons.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ClairesMommy View Post
    Then by alll means, express your opinion.
    I think prescribing the right medication for mental illness is very important. One of my close friends growing up her mother was committed to a state mental institution several times while she was in high school. As long as she took her medication she was fine, but when she went off her meds she saw demons and wild things. She was never dangerous to anyone except herself, but it was heartbreaking for my friend to go through. But like anything, medicines can also have dangerous side effects, and I think that sometimes these same meds can have horrible effects on some people. It seems like to me that in some cases the doctors are not paying close enough attention to the meds they give out and not monitoring the results propperly. I believe this is the doctors fault for not giving enough supervision especially when giving a new medication or substantially changes dosages. But this all goes the the fact that people kill people. Guns don't kill people. In all these cases where someone was killed, the gun didn't pull the trigger by itself. Someone pulled the trigger, and if a gun wasn't available they would probably have used something else, as they did in some of the cases mentioned. Banning all the guns in the world won't stop people who have a bad reaction to medications or people who are just mentally ill period from killing people.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KimPossible View Post
    I think assault weapons are a great place to crack down on regulations. Again, like stated before, its not about just the numbers, its about purposes, and what is sacrificed in return.
    So how many billions of dollars are you willing to spend to remove a gun that is rarely used in crimes? Because it would take billions.
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    Sorry, DP.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ClairesMommy View Post

    What I see, as a non-American, is this fascinating, sad, terrifying trend in American society to right all the wrongs done to you by simply killing as many people as possible and then commiting suicide. People that mean nothing to you, or a hell of a lot to you. Doesn't matter, it seems.
    Out of the roughly 308,745,538 people living in America, there have been about 30 mass shootings in my life time. You can not judge an entire country by a fraction of a fraction of the population.

    ETA - This would be like saying all Germans are ****'s, that all Middle Easterners are Radical Muslim extremists wanting to blow up the rest of the world. Those over generalizations are no more true than what you are saying here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AlyssaEimers View Post
    Out of the roughly 308,745,538 people living in America, there have been about 30 mass shootings in my life time. You can not judge an entire country by a fraction of a fraction of the population.

    ETA - This would be like saying all Germans are ****'s, that all Middle Easterners are Radical Muslim extremists wanting to blow up the rest of the world. Those over generalizations are no more true than what you are saying here.
    I don't know how old you are, Bonita, but I'm 41 and in my lifetime I can remember 2. The Ecole Polytechnique shooting in Montreal in the 80s, and the Taber, AB highschool shooting in the 90s. Though if any other Canadian girls can remember others, please update my brain. 30 mass shootings. That's a lot. That`s more than any one person should ever be able to remember in their lifetime. I don`t judge your entire country. It is, to me at least, a phenomenon in the US - these mass shootings. Don`t you believe so? WTF? i`m getting all these french accents on Es when I try to put in question marks!

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    Quote Originally Posted by GloriaInTX View Post
    So how many billions of dollars are you willing to spend to remove a gun that is rarely used in crimes? Because it would take billions.
    I'd be willing to spend many billions in order to come up with a thorough and comprehensive gun control reform act, that included, but was not limited to an assault weapons ban. If we can spend 600 or 700 billion on military defense when our largest threats to human life at this time are domestic? I say its worth it. And I'm willing to spend many billions because I don't want any half @ssed plan that will waste our money. We've been there, done that in the 90's. We need something better planned, more thought out and yes, more costly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ClairesMommy View Post
    I don't know how old you are, Bonita, but I'm 41 and in my lifetime I can remember 2. The Ecole Polytechnique shooting in Montreal in the 80s, and the Taber, AB highschool shooting in the 90s. Though if any other Canadian girls can remember others, please update my brain. 30 mass shootings. That's a lot. That`s more than any one person should ever be able to remember in their lifetime. I don`t judge your entire country. It is, to me at least, a phenomenon in the US - these mass shootings. Don`t you believe so? WTF? i`m getting all these french accents on Es when I try to put in question marks!
    Actually there are mass shootings around the world, one shooter in Norway killed 77 people. Not to mention that the U.S. has a MUCH higher population than Canada and many other countries so its not really that surprising that we would have more, or that they get more attention.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ClairesMommy View Post
    I don't know how old you are, Bonita, but I'm 41 and in my lifetime I can remember 2. The Ecole Polytechnique shooting in Montreal in the 80s, and the Taber, AB highschool shooting in the 90s. Though if any other Canadian girls can remember others, please update my brain. 30 mass shootings. That's a lot. That`s more than any one person should ever be able to remember in their lifetime. I don`t judge your entire country. It is, to me at least, a phenomenon in the US - these mass shootings. Don`t you believe so? WTF? i`m getting all these french accents on Es when I try to put in question marks!
    It is not that I do not think 30 is a lot, I think 1 is a lot. It is the overall attitude that come across in your posts that all American's are terrible people planning to go out and do a mass shooting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KimPossible View Post
    I'd be willing to spend many billions in order to come up with a thorough and comprehensive gun control reform act, that included, but was not limited to an assault weapons ban. If we can spend 600 or 700 billion on military defense when our largest threats to human life at this time are domestic? I say its worth it. And I'm willing to spend many billions because I don't want any half @ssed plan that will waste our money. We've been there, done that in the 90's. We need something better planned, more thought out and yes, more costly.
    So you are willing to spend billions to possibly save the lives of less than 300 people a year? That is if those same 300 people don't just use another type of gun... or a knife ..... or a baseball bat.... instead.
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