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    I just read an article recently (I will try to find it) about someone who developed a door that was also a metal detector. I think that kind of technology will also help in preventing this kind of situation from happening in the future.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Potter75 View Post
    That may be, I just knew it wasn't 9 out of 10.
    I hope you`re not expecting our underfunded and weary military to come sort out your civil unrest. We just put $35 billion into fighter jets we`ll never use much.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Potter75 View Post
    Are you against fighting terrorists because it costs money? or drugs? Or speeding? Or international crime? Or other crime? Why just the cost of guns?
    Because it won't have an effect. Do you really think that spending a billion dollars to get rid of all the AR-15s will decrease the gun violence in the inner cities which is the problem? Because 2 shooters used AR-15s IN ADDITION to the other guns they used to kill people? Not very much bang for your buck in my opinion. Not to mention that 4 million people who own AR-15s that don't shoot people with them that would be penalized for what 2 people did.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AlyssaEimers View Post
    I just read an article recently (I will try to find it) about someone who developed a door that was also a metal detector. I think that kind of technology will also help in preventing this kind of situation from happening in the future.
    Does it have the potential to save some lives? I think it might. However, I also believe it to be a stop-gap measure - a bandaid for the larger wound. the end result might mean fewer lives lost, but it is the will and ability to take as many lives as possible that I find truly disturbing. If a gunman couldn#t take out a classroom of students because of a door with a metal detector, what#s to stop him from going on a rampage at the mall, or dog park, or pool or any other place many people congregate

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    Quote Originally Posted by ClairesMommy View Post
    Does it have the potential to save some lives? I think it might. However, I also believe it to be a stop-gap measure - a bandaid for the larger wound. the end result might mean fewer lives lost, but it is the will and ability to take as many lives as possible that I find truly disturbing. If a gunman couldn#t take out a classroom of students because of a door with a metal detector, what#s to stop him from going on a rampage at the mall, or dog park, or pool or any other place many people congregate
    Is it the only answer? No. But at this point anything will help. It would not have helped the school shooting because the man came through a window, but it would have helped in the movie theatre shooting. The reality of the situation is that you can not take away guns over night so whatever the end result of the gun debate is, in the short term guns of all types are here to stay. This is something that would help in the immediate future save lives.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GloriaInTX View Post
    Because it won't have an effect. Do you really think that spending a billion dollars to get rid of all the AR-15s will decrease the gun violence in the inner cities which is the problem? Because 2 shooters used AR-15s IN ADDITION to the other guns they used to kill people? Not very much bang for your buck in my opinion. Not to mention that 4 million people who own AR-15s that don't shoot people with them that would be penalized for what 2 people did.
    Well, that depends. Do you think that the BILLIONS we are spending in the middle east, the lives that we are losing is "helping", or do you think that its creating more terrorists as we kill peoples parents and impoverish more children and families? Do you think that the money we spend on the "war on drugs" "created" the problem in the inner cities? The crack thing is fascinating. Do you think that our immigration policies created some of the poverty issues, which created some of the drug issues, which created some of the violence issues, which created some of the prison issues? Do you think that some of our underfunding of education and overfunding of defense created some of the lack of job skills in the inner cities, which left people with no where to go but the drug trade and violence? I mean, we can argue this stuff all day long, but kid #1 just got home. We can talk about punishing the wrong people and talk about "effect" as long as you want. Its a fascinating topic. I sound a lot like you when it comes to the "war on drugs" and the billions we spent prosecuting people for marijuana possession. I guess its all about what's near and dear to ones heart, eh?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ClairesMommy View Post
    I hope you`re not expecting our underfunded and weary military to come sort out your civil unrest. We just put $35 billion into fighter jets we`ll never use much.
    Maybe you should ask us for free fighter jets, after all we are about to give 10 to Egypt and they aren't even our allies.
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    [QUOTE=GloriaInTX;9039776]wasn#t the US an ally of Egypt under Mubarak? Is it just the new PM or Egypt as a whole that the US isn#t friends with? I don#t know too much about US foreign policy in Egypt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AlyssaEimers View Post
    Is it the only answer? No. But at this point anything will help. It would not have helped the school shooting because the man came through a window, but it would have helped in the movie theatre shooting. The reality of the situation is that you can not take away guns over night so whatever the end result of the gun debate is, in the short term guns of all types are here to stay. This is something that would help in the immediate future save lives.
    Probably not, because he went out an emergency exit to get his guns, and then came back in through that same emergency exit. Why would anyone put metal detector doors on a door that is only supposed to be used to get OUT?

    And Australia did implement gun control pretty much "overnight," I think it was within one year, and it absolutely could happen here in the U.S. if enough people wanted to make it happen. The Australian gun-related homicide rate dropped 59 percent between 1995 and 2006, with no corresponding increase in non-firearm-related homicides. Suicides by gun went down 65 percent, and robberies at gunpoint also dropped significantly. In the decade before the Port Arthur massacre, there were 11 mass shootings in Australia; since then, with the new gun control laws in place, there hasn’t been one shooting spree.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ClairesMommy View Post
    wasn#t the US an ally of Egypt under Mubarak? Is it just the new PM or Egypt as a whole that the US isn#t friends with? I don#t know too much about US foreign policy in Egypt.
    The new president was a member of the Muslim Brotherhood which is historically antagonistic to Isreal. So it is isn't really clear at this time whether Egypt will continue to be at peace with Isreal, who is our ally.

    BBC News - Egypt President: Muslim Brotherhood's Mohammed Morsi

    Egyptian Muslim Brotherhood Gov: ?Israel Stole $50 Billion of Our Sand?
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