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    Quote Originally Posted by mom3girls View Post
    You really think commenting on a performer that was on a national stage is comparable to taking a picture with your phone and sending it to your friends?
    Wait, so its only OKAY to compare a woman to a piece of meat (which personally I truly find objectionable and if I saw that anywhere near my newsfeed I would speak up ~thats inappropriate) when her stage is national vs. a gym floor? Ridiculous.

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    Quote Originally Posted by freddieflounder101 View Post
    Isn't the intention exactly the same? To make fun of someone and how they look and the outfit they chose?
    I dont think the intention is the same, or at least on my part. I think when performers are on a national or world stage they accept to be critiqued. I think when someone is at a gym, or anywhere that they are just trying to live their life and someone takes pictures with the sole intention of making fun of them it crosses a line. Miley knew that her picture would be taken, others did not know that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Potter75 View Post
    Wait, so its only OKAY to compare a woman to a piece of meat (which personally I truly find objectionable and if I saw that anywhere near my newsfeed I would speak up ~thats inappropriate) when her stage is national vs. a gym floor? Ridiculous.

    I didnt compare her to a piece of meat did I? I agree that the meat thing is way inappropriate and really gross.
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    Why is it okay to make fun of Miley and not the creepo singing the song who invited her to dance with him?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mom3girls View Post
    I dont think the intention is the same, or at least on my part. I think when performers are on a national or world stage they accept to be critiqued. I think when someone is at a gym, or anywhere that they are just trying to live their life and someone takes pictures with the sole intention of making fun of them it crosses a line. Miley knew that her picture would be taken, others did not know that.

    And I think that when someone is in a family gym running with their body wrapped in metallic glittery fabric in nothing but a sports bra and booty shorts, they are living in some world where they are like somebody on some stage, somewhere. I don't think that my body is limited to so many eye views/day. If I was wearing something totally outrageous, I know (because I know its human nature) that MORE people would look at me. Miley simply took advantage of this exact same human nature I'm talking about. And she is proving my point ~ her being an "entertainer" doesn't make this unique to her ~ humans look at and discuss the outliers. Its our nature. And you, yourself, are doing it, days after saying you would be "HORRIFIED" by it.

    As to how you feel about her being compared to a slab of meat? You may find it objectionable, but thats a shame you didn't speak up about it when you were snarking on her and calling her ugly and horrible and degraded.

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    Its a strange ethical code that will take two humans and say its okay to talk about one in a negative manner but not the other just because one is an entertainer and one is not.

    They are both still human and the intent of the comments are still the same. Its pretty simple.

    The fact that Miley Cyrus is an entertainer doesn't all of a sudden change the meaning of the words that come out of ones mouth
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    When I was picturing the other debate, the mental image I had in my mind was the "Only at Walmart" photos. Those pictures are making fun of everyday people who just do not know how to dress well. People who are overweight. They are making fun of people who are just trying their best who do not happen to be in the popular crowd.

    When I was thinking of this thread, I was thinking of Miley's performance. Was it appropriate, what did it do to the children that watched it, what a tragedy that a young woman's life has spun out of control, that the performance was tasteless, and many other similar things. It never once entered my mind that SHE was ugly. When I read the previous comment on this thread, I totally took it to mean what she DID was ugly, not that she personally was ugly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mom3girls View Post
    I dont think the intention is the same, or at least on my part. I think when performers are on a national or world stage they accept to be critiqued. I think when someone is at a gym, or anywhere that they are just trying to live their life and someone takes pictures with the sole intention of making fun of them it crosses a line. Miley knew that her picture would be taken, others did not know that.
    You know what is interesting about your comment. Your first sentence talks about the intention not being the same, but the only differentiation you made was between the recipients....not the actual intent behind the comments.

    I think we are trying to make it sound different here when really there isn't much of a difference.

    It is people making negative comments about how someone acts or what they are wearing when they are in a setting where other people can see them.

    I'm not so sure why it matters who you are talking negatively about...you are still choosing to criticize someone for their choices. The intent is most definitely the same.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AlyssaEimers View Post
    When I was picturing the other debate, the mental image I had in my mind was the "Only at Walmart" photos. Those pictures are making fun of everyday people who just do not know how to dress well. People who are overweight. They are making fun of people who are just trying their best who do not happen to be in the popular crowd.

    When I was thinking of this thread, I was thinking of Miley's performance. Was it appropriate, what did it do to the children that watched it, what a tragedy that a young woman's life has spun out of control, that the performance was tasteless, and many other similar things. It never once entered my mind that SHE was ugly. When I read the previous comment on this thread, I totally took it to mean what she DID was ugly, not that she personally was ugly.
    Did anyone in the previous debate say that they agreed with uploading a photo to the internet at large (aka people of walmart?) again, as stated in the previous debate by a different poster, I believe you are debating a ghost.

    What exactly do you think that Miley's performance did to children who watched it? I admit I didn't watch it and my children didn't watch it, but I'm super curious what you think that it "did to children"?

    Also, do you know Miley Cyrus? What are you basing the idea that her life has "spun out of control"? That seems to be both judgmental and ......well, couldn't one call such accusations, you know, like ~ cyber bullying? I'm making a wild guess here that you don't know the girl or anyone who DOES know the girl? Who are you to make such judgments about her personal life?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Potter75 View Post
    I can't believe you guys who are so aghast at people cyber bullying (your definition, Lisa and Bonita and Gloria, not mine) would cyber bully Miley like this. Comparing her to a piece of meat? Calling her ugly? Hmmmm.
    Putting words in my mouth again? Where did I say anything about cyber bullying or define it? I barely even posted in that debate.
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