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    Quote Originally Posted by GloriaInTX View Post
    I'm sure it doesn't frighten you near as much as it frightens me that Obama might get re-elected. The only thing that has held him back at all for these four years is that he couldn't implement everything he wants to do because he still needs people to re-elect him. What is he going to do when that safetly valve is gone? That really scares me. He has proven that he has no problem making up his own rules and bypassing congress when it suits him.
    I don't understand the bolded sentence the way it is worded. Can you explain again what you were trying to say? Sorry.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alissa_Sal View Post
    No offense Gloria, but this seems to be such an over the top emotional response. He's not a monster or a boogy man. He's still a human being. Can you give some specifics about what you think will happen if he is re-elected?
    On immigration, Obama wanted to bypass Congress | WashingtonExaminer.com

    Earlier this month, the Senate voted not to pass a bill, backed by the Obama administration, that would have imposed cybersecurity regulations on private computer networks. A day later, the White House announced that it was considering issuing an executive order to accomplish many of the failed bill's goals. One wonders why we have a Congress at all.
    Obama Has Right to Bypass Congress on Cybersecurity, Immigration - Economic Intelligence (usnews.com)

    President Obama has signed 138 Executive Orders to date during his Administration.
    1,461 Days of The Obama Administration: Current List of President Obama's Executive Orders


    But increasingly in recent months, the administration has been seeking ways to act without Congress. Branding its unilateral efforts “We Can’t Wait,” a slogan that aides said Mr. Obama coined at that strategy meeting, the White House has rolled out dozens of new policies — on creating jobs for veterans, preventing drug shortages, raising fuel economy standards, curbing domestic violence and more.

    Each time, Mr. Obama has emphasized the fact that he is bypassing lawmakers. When he announced a cut in refinancing fees for federally insured mortgages last month, for example, he said: “If Congress refuses to act, I’ve said that I’ll continue to do everything in my power to act without them.”

    Aides say many more such moves are coming. Not just a short-term shift in governing style and a re-election strategy, Mr. Obama’s increasingly assertive use of executive action could foreshadow pitched battles over the separation of powers in his second term, should he win and Republicans consolidate their power in Congress.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KimPossible View Post
    I don't understand the bolded sentence the way it is worded. Can you explain again what you were trying to say? Sorry.
    I am sayin the only thing holding him back was the fact that he still had to retain enough public support to be re-elected. Once he has free reign to do whatever he wants no matter what people think I think he will be dangerous.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GloriaInTX View Post
    I am sayin the only thing holding him back was the fact that he still had to retain enough public support to be re-elected. Once he has free reign to do whatever he wants no matter what people think I think he will be dangerous.
    Okay, i understand it this time. Really, if you think this was his MO, would he have passed such a controversial healthcare act? It was monumental.....'monumental' does not typically coincide with 'playing it safe so you can get re-elected'.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KimPossible View Post
    Okay, i understand it this time. Really, if you think this was his MO, would he have passed such a controversial healthcare act? It was monumental.....'monumental' does not typically coincide with 'playing it safe so you can get re-elected'.
    I don't think he could resist ramming that one through when he could, since they knew they were losing their majority he figured that would be his only chance to get something that big through. That is why they passed it without even reading it or figuring out if it was good or bad. He didn't care it was going through anyway.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GloriaInTX View Post
    I don't think he could resist ramming that one through when he could, since they knew they were losing their majority he figured that would be his only chance to get something that big through. That is why they passed it without even reading it or figuring out if it was good or bad. He didn't care it was going through anyway.
    Even if this explanation was accurate, this is an entirely different mindset than a "Play safe to get re-elected"

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    Quote Originally Posted by KimPossible View Post
    Even if this explanation was accurate, this is an entirely different mindset than a "Play safe to get re-elected"
    I didn't say he was playing it safe. I said with the things he has already demonstrated he was capable of even when he had to consider being re-elected, I am scared for our country when he has noone to answer to.
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    Yes, he has used executive orders (which exist for a reason, and which all presidents use) and frankly, since the Republicans in congress have made it part of their platform that they won't work with him no matter what, I imagine he will have to use more or else literally get nothing done. But are there specific things that you are afraid he will do?

    ETA: Here is a list of all Executive Orders by all presidents since 1937.

    So far, Obama has 135 EO's.
    GWB had 291 in 8 years (average of 145 per term.)
    Clinton had 364 in 8 years (average of 182 per term.)
    George Bush had 166 in 4 years
    Ronald Reagan had 381 in 8 years (average of 190 per term)

    That's as far back as I feel like going, but you can click through the links yourself. My point is, all Presidents use Executive Orders, and so far he certainly hasn't done a higher than normal amount.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alissa_Sal View Post
    Yes, he has used executive orders (which exist for a reason, and which all presidents use) and frankly, since the Republicans in congress have made it part of their platform that they won't work with him no matter what, I imagine he will have to use more or else literally get nothing done. But are there specific things that you are afraid he will do?
    Other than spend more money that my grandchildren will have to pay for, implement Obamacare and ruin our healthcare industry, grant immunity to illegal immigrants to take more of the jobs that there aren't enough to go around, put regulations on drilling so much that we have to depend on foreign oil which drives the prices up, putting unrealistic requirements on gas mileage in an effort to force people to have to drive a smaller car, putting restrictions on coal and other energy sources.... I could go on there is a whole list of things that I am afraid he will bypass congress to do whatever he wants.
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    Well hopefully if he gets re-elected the Republicans in Congress will actually work with him this term so that we can come to compromises. The problem with refusing to compromise is that you then have no input if the laws get put through anyway. Actually working with Obama and the democrats to represent both sides of the aisle would be a better service to their constituents IMO.
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