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    A photo of a Muslim woman wearing full Islamic dress and holding up a bra as she sorts laundry is stirring controversy in Kamloops, B.C., and the Saudi Arabian Embassy is now involved.

    The photo, taken by Thompson Rivers University fine arts student Sooraya Graham, features one of Graham's friends wearing a niqab, a veil covering the face, and abaya, a full-body cloak.

    The picture was a class assignment and was originally displayed with other student photos, until some students complained and a staff member tore it down.

    "I was pretty shocked and I kind of felt my personal space as an artist and a Canadian had been invaded," said Graham.

    The ripped photo was returned to Graham and she was allowed to display it at the university's art gallery.
    Now, the Saudi Education Centre in Kamloops, which is funded by the Saudi Arabian government and provides support to Saudi students and their families, is taking issue with the photo.

    "The artist didn't approach the artwork let's say in a very professional way that can state and can clarify the information and clarify the idea behind the picture," said centre president Trad Bahabri. Bahabri said he thinks text explaining the photo's meaning is needed.

    "I'm pretty sure many people misinterpret and many people misunderstand it. I can guarantee that," he said.
    Graham counters it's up to the viewer to interpret the meaning, but says she had hoped the photo would show the public that women who wear the niqab are the same as everyone else.
    Tasteful art? Disrespectful to Islam? Does the Saudi embassy have any right to get involved?

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    "Graham counters it's up to the viewer to interpret the meaning, but says she had hoped the photo would show the public that women who wear the niqab are the same as everyone else."

    This. It's art. It's supposed to make you think & wonder. What some people beautiful, others find distasteful, and vice versa. I'm sure that many people have wondered what is worn under the niqab. And ITA with the photographer that knowing some Muslim women might be wearing the same cute flowery frilly things you & I are wearing might help some people realize that, underneath it all, we're all humans.
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    I agree with Stacey. I don't think there was anything distasteful or disrespectful about that picture. I think the photographer wanted people to think and did so in a very respectful manner.

    "I'm pretty sure many people misinterpret and many people misunderstand it. I can guarantee that," he said. This statement makes me wonder how he (the Saudi Education person) interprets the picture??

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    I think this is tasteful art. If the woman that is photographed did not feel uneasy about the picture then I do not believe it should be an issue
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    I think that religion is psychotic and I hope that one day these poor women will be free from it all. I always think of stories like this when I hear people in this country rant and rave about women's rights. I'm totally 100% for women's rights... but what about these poor women? It's so sad that a photo that has ZERO innapropriateness is even being discussed like it's something bad.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Starryblue702 View Post
    I think that religion is psychotic and I hope that one day these poor women will be free from it all. I always think of stories like this when I hear people in this country rant and rave about women's rights. I'm totally 100% for women's rights... but what about these poor women? It's so sad that a photo that has ZERO innapropriateness is even being discussed like it's something bad.
    But the image of a bra, up against a niqab - to me I can see how Muslims see this as a huge contradiction. Showing an undergarment flies in the face of the purpose of a niqab in the first place, so I see how culturally and religiously this is contraversial. That said, this woman is far from Saudi Arabia, and she has the right in this country to wear what she likes and be photographed how she likes. I think the Saudi embassy is way out of line, interfering in the rights of Canadian citizens. It's pretty audacious, IMO.

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    My Grandmother, a strict baptist, would have seen that photo as wildly inappropriate in 1950. Does that make baptists psychotic too, Kryystal?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Claire'sMommy View Post
    But the image of a bra, up against a niqab - to me I can see how Muslims see this as a huge contradiction. Showing an undergarment flies in the face of the purpose of a niqab in the first place, so I see how culturally and religiously this is contraversial.
    I just showed this photo to two Muslim women with whom I work. Neither of them felt it's inappropriate or controversial at all, they both felt that it's beautiful and that it shows a Muslim woman as a *real* women. Both of them said, had the bra been on, or had the niqab been opened to show her garments underneath (not just a bra but her under-clothes) then those things would be inappropriate.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Spacers View Post
    I just showed this photo to two Muslim women with whom I work. Neither of them felt it's inappropriate or controversial at all, they both felt that it's beautiful and that it shows a Muslim woman as a *real* women. Both of them said, had the bra been on, or had the niqab been opened to show her garments underneath (not just a bra but her under-clothes) then those things would be inappropriate.
    I think that's good Muslim women (at least a few) don't find it controversial. I wonder if more Muslim men would take offense than women?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Claire'sMommy View Post
    But the image of a bra, up against a niqab - to me I can see how Muslims see this as a huge contradiction. Showing an undergarment flies in the face of the purpose of a niqab in the first place, so I see how culturally and religiously this is contraversial. That said, this woman is far from Saudi Arabia, and she has the right in this country to wear what she likes and be photographed how she likes. I think the Saudi embassy is way out of line, interfering in the rights of Canadian citizens. It's pretty audacious, IMO.
    I agree with this. In fairness, I don't know if the Saudi embassy is actually trying to interfere with anyone's rights (like trying to have the picture removed), or if they are just giving their opinion on it. If they are just giving their opinion, they are as welcome to it as anyone else, but I don't know that it should hold any more weight than anyone else's opinion. In Canada, they have a right to take (and display) pictures like that, so no one's "opinion" really matters that much.
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