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    He had developemental delays and was "slightly" autistic. Which scares me because thats my oldest (15) in a nutshell, i'm afraid that people are going to treat him differently now.

    I was also reading that he had an altercation the day before with the principal and 2 other women that were killed, the other woman wasn't their on Friday and they've been questioning her. Plus, tuesday he tried to buy a gun but couldn't because of the waiting period. There is definately going to be things coming out about some sort of mental illness. It just makes no sense that he would go to the school after killing his mother, if she was only a subsitute teacher she wasn't giving the kids more time then him.
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    I agree. I am terrified that pointing out that he was slightly autistic and had delays is going to put all kids with those. same issues in the same category. I don't want people thinking my daughter is capable of such things.

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    The overall knowledge concerning the autistic spectrum is pitifully lacking. Adding in the mention of autism is not going to make people more informed, but more likely to jump to conclusions about every child on the spectrum. I hope this leads to more knowlege and less stimatized by mental disorders
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    I agree with your post, which is why I think it is important to clearly, if possible, identify what the issue was. It is difficult for me to say he did this because he had Autism and delays. I feel like there has to be other issues coexisting. Hopefully the investigators will delve into any treatment he has had.

    I know a lot of people are calling this pure evil and dont get me wrong it is beyond my words. I just dont think evil had something to do with it. I see an overwhelming anger that suddenly erupted but I dont think a person who comprehends the situation could do something like this. I just do not think it is possible to kill these sweet kids like this. It is hard for me to believe that a person could get so angry as to do this unless there are a couple of other contributing factors

    I am having such a hard time with this to be honest. I feel so bad for parents in other countries who bury their kids everyday due to war an I cry so bad when I pay attention to that news. I guess we have so much detailed coverage of this whih makes it more intense to cope with. I just wish at least we could figure this out for understanding and not just put the blame on evil. I think blaming on evil will leavenus all scared and realizing how vulnerable we always ate because there are so many bad people out there. If we know he had bad issues maybe we could move forward and know we dont have to freak out every time we send our kids to school. I dont want my own kids to leave home tomorrow. I know it is reactionary. But i cant help it.

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    He had developemental delays and was "slightly" autistic. Which scares me because thats my oldest (15) in a nutshell, i'm afraid that people are going to treat him differently now.

    I was also reading that he had an altercation the day before with the principal and 2 other women that were killed, the other woman wasn't their on Friday and they've been questioning her. Plus, tuesday he tried to buy a gun but couldn't because of the waiting period. There is definately going to be things coming out about some sort of mental illness. It just makes no sense that he would go to the school after killing his mother, if she was only a subsitute teacher she wasn't giving the kids more time then him.
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    I am a little in awe of the change in topic. There are many, many people with Autism that have never and would never do something like this. Blaming this horror on Autism will only harm others with Autism. Obviously someone would have to be not in their right mind to be capable of something like this.

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    I didn't take the change to mean that anyone here thinks that just that the media is giving that out as a possible explanation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AlyssaEimers View Post
    I am a little in awe of the change in topic. There are many, many people with Autism that have never and would never do something like this. Blaming this horror on Autism will only harm others with Autism. Obviously someone would have to be not in their right mind to be capable of something like this.
    I'm a little in awe of how clearly I've not said that but yet it has been read that way.
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    I didn't read this in CNN, but just read it in another article:

    Perhaps the older brother recognized some severe issues to make him believe that he had Schizophrenia or BiPolar Disorder as I was suggesting earlier in my posts. I don't think his brother would randomly suggest this if there was no indication of something substantial, some acts that he had done.


    A relative of Newtown, Conn. shooter Adam Lanza told investigators that Lanza had a form of autism, CNN reported on Sunday, Dec. 16, according to a law enforcement official , who spoke under the condition of anonymity due to the sensitive nature of the investigation.

    Adam?s older brother, Ryan Lanza, 24, was first identified as the shooter at Sandy Hook Elementary school. Adam Lanza had Ryan?s identification on his person at the time of the shooting. Ryan Lanza was taken into custody on Friday, Dec. 14 and questioned by law enforcement officials. Ryan told investigators that not only did his younger brother Adam have a personality disorder, perhaps paranoid schizophrenia or bipolar disorder, but that Adam was autistic.

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    On Friday, Dec. 14 Lanza, 20, donned black fatigues and a military vest, drove to Sandy Hook Elementary school, shooting his way in and then slaughtering 26 innocent people, 20 children no older than seven-years-old, and six adults.

    Authorities have offered few details about Lanza, but one of Adam?s family members, an aunt named Marsha, described him as a ?quiet nice kid? who had ?issues with learning.?

    Reportedly Nancy Lanza, Adam?s mother, ?battled? with the school board at some point made the decision to home-school Adam, who is described as ?quiet, withdrawn, very, very bright.?
    National committee warns against making connection between autism, violence - Buffalo Top News | Examiner.com



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    Risk factors for violent offending in a... [J Interpers Violence. 2009] - PubMed - NCBI


    Risk factors for violent offending in autism spectrum disorder: a national study of hospitalized individuals.
    L?ngstr?m N, Grann M, Ruchkin V, Sj?stedt G, Fazel S.
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    Centre for Violence Prevention, Karolinska Institutet, Stockholm, Sweden. niklas.langstrom@ki.se

    Abstract

    Little is known about risk factors for violence among individuals with autism spectrum disorder (ASD). This study uses data from Swedish longitudinal registers for all 422 individuals hospitalized with autistic disorder or Asperger syndrome during 1988-2000 and compares those committing violent or sexual offenses with those who did not. Thirty-one individuals with ASD (7%) were convicted of violent nonsexual crimes and two of sexual offenses. Violent individuals with ASD are more often male and diagnosed with Asperger syndrome rather than autistic disorder. Furthermore, comorbid psychotic and substance use disorders are associated with violent offending. We conclude that violent offending in ASD is related to similar co-occurring psychopathology as previously found among violent individuals without ASD. Although this study does not answer whether ASDs are associated with increased risk of violent offending compared with the general population, careful risk assessment and management may be indicated for some individuals with Asperger syndrome.
    PMID: 18701743 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]
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    My work was having our holiday party on Friday, and I had a lot to do before taking off the afternoon, so I never logged onto the internet. Then I realized I'd forgotten something at home so I rushed back to get it, and heard the news on the radio. The DJ came on after a song and started to say something about a school shooting in Connecticut, and she started crying. She said there had been some discussion at the station about whether to switch over to their sister news station, and the decision was no; people who wanted news knew where to tune to get it, and those who wanted to hear music, for whatever reason, should be able to have music. The DJ encouraged people to call in & talk with her because she was feeling very isolated in her booth and was craving human contact.

    DH & I decided not to talk with Tiven about it, but we had to. On Saturday morning, she & Weston started playing, "hide from the intruder at school." Turns out her after-school Spanish teacher told the class what had happened. I'm furious about that.
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    A little disgusted with how this thread kept going...

    What a horrible thing to bring autism into as one more reason to ostracize the growing numbers of children that fall on the spectrum.


    GREAT article.

    Expert: Asperger’s Syndrome Unfairly Scapegoated For School Massacre ? CBS New York
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