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    What do you think when people spell one of their names, first/middle/last, a certain way and then ask others to pronounce it some non-intuitive (for English speakers) way?

    For example, say I call my kid Xox and tell everyone to pronounce this name "Amy?"

    Obviously, I'm exaggerating a bit, but you get my point.

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    Well internally, and silently, I think it's fine when it's a cultural or historical name (like Siobhan) or something foreign, but when I think it's one of those made-up pretentious things, I think it's ridiculous and make fun of the person who made up the name. . .just to myself.
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    I agree with Laurie. Cultural names should be pronounced the way they are pronounced in that native language. Made up names, well I'll call you whatever you want, but I'll probably laugh behind your back.

    I'll add, I hate when people don't make an effort to pronounce someones name the way they want. One of the big things we taught teachers in our workshop was "never give a kid a nickname just because you have a hard time pronouncing it". This happens so much, especially with Asian kids and it is very disrespectful, IMO.

    BTw, I am not sure which one you are alluding to in the op. I think names that are not intuitve for English speakers is different from made up names that follow no rules in any language (like Xox=amy). but say Xiun is pronounce Shun in Chinese. Is that what you meant?
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    Quote Originally Posted by culturedmom View Post
    I agree with Laurie. Cultural names should be pronounced the way they are pronounced in that native language. Made up names, well I'll call you whatever you want, but I'll probably laugh behind your back.

    I'll add, I hate when people don't make an effort to pronounce someones name the way they want. One of the big things we taught teachers in our workshop was "never give a kid a nickname just because you have a hard time pronouncing it". This happens so much, especially with Asian kids and it is very disrespectful, IMO.

    BTw, I am not sure which one you are alluding to in the op. I think names that are not intuitve for English speakers is different from made up names that follow no rules in any language (like Xox=amy). but say Xiun is pronounce Shun in Chinese. Is that what you meant?
    Me too. Over time I have gotten really good at looking at names and knowing what parents were going for. There are a few names that I'm never going to get the accent just right, no matter how much a practice and ask for feedback.

    Many words we use in English aren't pronounced intuitively (e.g., colonel). Once somebody tells you their name, it doesn't matter how it's spelled unless you are communicating in writing. If you are writing the name, it doesn't really matter how it's pronounced.

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    Quote Originally Posted by culturedmom View Post
    I agree with Laurie. Cultural names should be pronounced the way they are pronounced in that native language. Made up names, well I'll call you whatever you want, but I'll probably laugh behind your back.

    I'll add, I hate when people don't make an effort to pronounce someones name the way they want. One of the big things we taught teachers in our workshop was "never give a kid a nickname just because you have a hard time pronouncing it". This happens so much, especially with Asian kids and it is very disrespectful, IMO.

    BTw, I am not sure which one you are alluding to in the op. I think names that are not intuitve for English speakers is different from made up names that follow no rules in any language (like Xox=amy). but say Xiun is pronounce Shun in Chinese. Is that what you meant?
    Agree with Laurie and Lana.

    To the bolded, I have a funny one. A friend works in a pediatricians office, and she has to call and confirm appointments. She had a new patient to call for, and the name was spelled. La-ah. So she (hesitantly) called and said that she was confirming an appointment for "Lah-ah." Nope. The name was "La-dash-ah."
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    OMG seriously? You say dash for -? Hahahahaha. That's freakin awesome.
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    The one thing I think parents don't realize though wehn coming up with namesis that usually the kids name is the first thing they learn how to spell in school. It's what they use to learn phonics. So when parents make up freaky names that follow no rules, it can be hard for kids in the beginning.

    I don;t know how the f@@k the teacher would explain La-Ah, lol.
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    I agree with Laurie.


    I also get fed up with people who don't really listen how to pronounce a name. I tell people to call me "Denise" (even though I very much dislike the name) because pronouncing my actual name "Deniz" gets butchered every. single. time.

    I get asked if "Deniz" is really on my bnirth cetificate.
    I also get asked if it's really how I spell my name, or did I just make it up.
    I also get people that spell my name differently than what I say because they don't believe me when I spell it for them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by culturedmom View Post
    BTw, I am not sure which one you are alluding to in the op. I think names that are not intuitve for English speakers is different from made up names that follow no rules in any language (like Xox=amy). but say Xiun is pronounce Shun in Chinese. Is that what you meant?
    Well, in your example, there is really no excuse, IMO, to spell it differently than it is pronounced seeing as how you're translating a name from a non-latin alphabet to English. Spell it how it sounds and then there will be less mispronunciation and aggravation for the Chinese person and everyone pronouncing the name IYKWIM.

    But what I was actually think of was senator Boehner. I cannot bring myself to say bayner without rolling my eyes. If you're a Boner, be a proud boner. There's a reporter on CNN whose last name is Wiener. She pronounces it Wiener, just like an Oscar Meyer Wiener. I have mad respect for her for being a proud wiener. She doesn't try to tell people to say "Viner."

    As for the student name change thing, I've never asked a student if I could call them something else, but I've had quite a few students who give themselves nicknames and ask me (and other instructors) to use them. I think it would be disrespectful to not use the nickname if asked.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Great Vagina View Post
    But what I was actually think of was senator Boehner. I cannot bring myself to say bayner without rolling my eyes. If you're a Boner, be a proud boner. There's a reporter on CNN whose last name is Wiener. She pronounces it Wiener, just like an Oscar Meyer Wiener. I have mad respect for her for being a proud wiener. She doesn't try to tell people to say "Viner."
    Congressman Boehner.

    Maybe his ancestors changed the way it was pronounced many years ago, but I don't see why he should say "Boner" if his grandfather didn't just to seem more genuine. Not his fault. My married last name is not pronounced how it appears, so I sympathize with the gentleman from Ohio. Of course it's not as bad as Boner would be.

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