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    http://www.nytimes.com/2011/08/29/op...ml?ref=opinion

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    The Nation’s Cruelest Immigration Law

    Published: August 28, 2011

    The Alabama Legislature opened its session on March 1 on a note of humility and compassion. In the Senate, a Christian pastor asked God to grant members “wisdom and discernment” to do what is right. “Not what’s right in their own eyes,” he said, “but what’s right according to your word.” Soon after, both houses passed, and the governor signed, the country’s cruelest, most unforgiving immigration law.

    The law, which takes effect Sept. 1, is so inhumane that four Alabama church leaders — an Episcopal bishop, a Methodist bishop and a Roman Catholic archbishop and bishop — have sued to block it, saying it criminalizes acts of Christian compassion. It is a sweeping attempt to terrorize undocumented immigrants in every aspect of their lives, and to make potential criminals of anyone who may work or live with them or show them kindness.

    It effectively makes it a crime to be an undocumented immigrant in Alabama, by criminalizing working, renting a home and failing to comply with federal registration laws that are largely obsolete. It nullifies any contracts when one party is an undocumented immigrant. It requires the police to check the papers of people they suspect to be here illegally.

    The new regime does not spare American citizens. Businesses that knowingly employ illegal immigrants will lose their licenses. Public school officials will be required to determine students’ immigration status and report back to the state. Anyone knowingly “concealing, harboring or shielding” an illegal immigrant could be charged with a crime, say for renting someone an apartment or driving her to church or the doctor.

    The American Civil Liberties Union and the Justice Department have also sued, calling the law an unconstitutional intrusion on the federal government’s authority to write and enforce immigration laws. The A.C.L.U. warns that the law would trample people’s fundamental rights to speak and travel freely, effectively deny children the chance to go to school and expose people to harassment and racial profiling.

    These arguments have been made before, in opposition to similar, if less sweeping, laws passed in Arizona, Utah, Indiana and Georgia. What is remarkable in Alabama is the separate lawsuit by the four church leaders, who say the law violates their religious freedoms to perform acts of charity without regard to the immigration status of those they minister to or help.

    “The law,” Archbishop Thomas Rodi of Mobile said in The Times, “attacks our core understanding of what it means to be a church.”

    You’d think that any state would think twice before embracing a law that so vividly brings to mind the Fugitive Slave Act, the brutal legal and law-enforcement apparatus of the Jim Crow era, and the civil-rights struggle led by the Rev. Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. But waves of anti-immigrant hostility have made many in this country forget who and what we are.

    Congress was once on the brink of an ambitious bipartisan reform that would have enabled millions of immigrants stranded by the failed immigration system to get right with the law. This sensible policy has been abandoned. We hope the church leaders can waken their fellow Alabamans to the moral damage done when forgiveness and justice are so ruthlessly denied. We hope Washington and the rest of the country will also listen.
    What do you think? Is this a cruel law? Is it fair?
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    I agree it is cruel and inhumane. Alabama just went from legalizing hatred of one group of people to another.

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    I completely agree.

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    I think it's too harsh. I can't believe it's happening right next door to us.

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    I don't have a problem with it, and I don't like how the article tried to make it out like Christians did this somehow. Just because a man that was a pastor said his piece to the houses there (as is his right, as is the right of people who didn't agree with it) they're making it out to be his fault somehow. It was passed by both houses and the governor of that state signed off on it. This country's imigration laws are a joke, there is zero border protection, and our country is having enough financial problems as it is without illegal immigrants adding to the problem. If they're here illegally, then they've commited a crime. Why do we put people in jail for stealing a car? Because it's against the law. So why do we turn a blind eye to the TENS OF THOUSANDS of illegal immigrants that are here?? DH's cousin was killed last year by a drunk driver who is an illegal immigrant, working here illegally of course, and had no driver's license. He decided to take his boss' truck out one night (which, if the boss was being held to these new laws, he wouldn't have hired this man in the first place), go bar hopping, and then ran a stop sign and plowed right into her (she was only 22 years old and had her baby daugher in the back seat). She was driving home from their grandmother's wake, so you can only imagine the state of mind the family was in the next day at the funeral. If these kind of laws were in place, she would still be alive and her daughter would still have her mother (who was the only parent she actually had, as her father has had nothing to do with her since birth). Things like this happen all of the time, and our prisons are filled to the brim with illegal immigrants who are commiting all sorts of crimes. Who do you think pays for them to be housed and fed there? You and I do! I know that crime happens in this country every day, but we don't need even more of it by people that aren't even here legally to begin with! I am completely fine with ANYONE AND EVERYONE that wants to come to this country to be a citizen, but go through the proper legal channels. Learn to speak english. Learn our history and our pledge of allegiance. It's not fair to all of the people that came to this country the right and legal way... nor is it fair to the rest of us.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Starryblue702 View Post
    I don't have a problem with it, and I don't like how the article tried to make it out like Christians did this somehow. Just because a man that was a pastor said his piece to the houses there (as is his right, as is the right of people who didn't agree with it) they're making it out to be his fault somehow. It was passed by both houses and the governor of that state signed off on it. This country's imigration laws are a joke, there is zero border protection, and our country is having enough financial problems as it is without illegal immigrants adding to the problem. If they're here illegally, then they've commited a crime. Why do we put people in jail for stealing a car? Because it's against the law. So why do we turn a blind eye to the TENS OF THOUSANDS of illegal immigrants that are here?? DH's cousin was killed last year by a drunk driver who is an illegal immigrant, working here illegally of course, and had no driver's license. He decided to take his boss' truck out one night (which, if the boss was being held to these new laws, he wouldn't have hired this man in the first place), go bar hopping, and then ran a stop sign and plowed right into her (she was only 22 years old and had her baby daugher in the back seat). She was driving home from their grandmother's wake, so you can only imagine the state of mind the family was in the next day at the funeral. If these kind of laws were in place, she would still be alive and her daughter would still have her mother (who was the only parent she actually had, as her father has had nothing to do with her since birth). Things like this happen all of the time, and our prisons are filled to the brim with illegal immigrants who are commiting all sorts of crimes. Who do you think pays for them to be housed and fed there? You and I do! I know that crime happens in this country every day, but we don't need even more of it by people that aren't even here legally to begin with! I am completely fine with ANYONE AND EVERYONE that wants to come to this country to be a citizen, but go through the proper legal channels. Learn to speak english. Learn our history and our pledge of allegiance. It's not fair to all of the people that came to this country the right and legal way... nor is it fair to the rest of us.
    The article says Christians are AGAINST it, because it doesn't allow them to practice Christian charity.

    I am sorry for your loss, but it has little to do with arresting people for driving illegal immigrants to church or not reporting that children are in school.

    Also, I don't know if you are familiar with the application process to become a citizen, or even a landed immigrant, but it costs thousands and takes many years and many of the people who apply would simply be told no because they don't have the money to do it.

    http://reason.com/assets/db/07cf533d...b5942ef5ad.jpg

    (FYI I am a landed immigrant. I know of what I speak.)

    The handful of people I know here who are (or really were, as they aren't anymore) illegal immigrants are hard-working, honest, desperate people who contribute to their communities and to our society.

    Some Americans are criminals. Some immigrants are criminals. Making it illegal to take a sick person to the hospital (because you're harboring a criminal, based on their citizenship status) is not going to solve the problem we have with immigration here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Starryblue702 View Post
    I am completely fine with ANYONE AND EVERYONE that wants to come to this country to be a citizen, but go through the proper legal channels.
    The biggest problem is that there are no legal channels for most of the people who want to come to the US to do so. A hard-working mother in Mexico who wants to go and work hard in the US? No legal options.

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    I'd be fine with it if it was just hire/rent to, but if you have to check someone's immigration status before giving them a ride on the side of the road, then shouldn't the government also have to check the immigration status of those that are on government assistance? Doesn't it make more sense to close the loophole where the authorities are helping them before trying to keep charitable acts from happening?

    I'm totally against amnesty for illegal immigrants and if I could wave my magic wand, I'd send them all back to their home of residence (and make the application process more simple), but it seems wrong that my little sister could be considered a criminal for helping her next door neighbor when her husband got arrested and then deported when she was pregnant and had no way to support her two year old.

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    If I had a magic wand I'd make everyone jump through the same hoops regardless of where they were born.

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    Exodus 22:21 "Do not mistreat an alien or oppress him, for you were aliens in Egypt.
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    Leviticus 19:34 The alien living with you must be treated as one of your native-born. Love him as yourself, for you were aliens in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.
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    Deuteronomy 23:7 Do not abhor an Edomite, for he is your brother. Do not abhor an Egyptian, because you lived as an alien in his country.
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    Ezekiel 47:22 You are to allot it as an inheritance for yourselves and for the aliens who have settled among you and who have children. You are to consider them as native-born Israelites; along with you they are to be allotted an inheritance among the tribes of Israel.
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    Ezekiel 47:23 In whatever tribe the alien settles, there you are to give him his inheritance," declares the Sovereign LORD.

    Deuteronomy 10:19 And you are to love those who are aliens, for you yourselves were aliens in Egypt.

    "Love your neighbor as yourself." -Jesus
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