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    She also didn't say people don't pay any. She did note that most of the time they are getting it back in a refund.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GloriaInTX View Post
    How do you know it's just $1? They can just as easily spend their whole check on lottery tickets as $1.

    Yeah, maybe they do and just don't eat all month. Or they probably steal food. ?

    But I'm going by what you said in post #40. You are the one who doesn't care if it is only $1

    I don't care if it is only $1. It is still wrong to spend money someone gave you for living expenses to gamble with, no matter if it is a lottery ticket or a slot machine or a poker game.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jessica80 View Post
    She also didn't say people don't pay any. She did note that most of the time they are getting it back in a refund.

    Which I believe as of 2012 is something like 52% of Americans? So it isn't like Blather and I are making up wild assumptions or anything.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jessica80 View Post
    She also didn't say people don't pay any. She did note that most of the time they are getting it back in a refund.
    Umm.... that is the same thing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Potter75 View Post
    Yeah, maybe they do and just don't eat all month. Or they probably steal food. ?

    But I'm going by what you said in post #40. You are the one who doesn't care if it is only $1
    You are right, I don't care if it is only a $1. That is not what it is intended for. How much is acceptable to you for them to spend on lottery tickets instead of their children before it is a problem? They have food stamps to feed their kids so they aren't going to starve. This money is intended for housing, clothing, utilities, etc. So it is ok with you if they just buy lottery tickets instead of shoes?
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    Quote Originally Posted by GloriaInTX View Post
    You are right, I don't care if it is only a $1. That is not what it is intended for. How much is acceptable to you for them to spend on lottery tickets instead of their children before it is a problem? They have food stamps to feed their kids so they aren't going to starve. This money is intended for housing, clothing, utilities, etc. So it is ok with you if they just buy lottery tickets instead of shoes?

    I don't know, I mean, its not like I get EXCITED about it. I just don't get so angry either. I believe that all humans have the right to a few dollars of discretionary spending, be it on a cupcake or a pack of gum, a beer or, yeah, a scratch off ticket. Life is hard and I do believe that even someone receiving TANF or whatever may have the ability to find room in their budget to spend a dollar or two on pleasure. I'm not going to judge them for it, just like I hope no one judges me for my pleasure spending.

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    I dont get excited about it but it does bother me. We are a family that does pay taxes (a ton in my opinion) but we also live on a budget. This latest tax increase has definitely pinched our budget, we have about $100 less a month in "discretionary" spending. I would also guess my family is not the only family that does pay taxes and still has to live in a fairly tight budget
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    Quote Originally Posted by mom3girls View Post
    I would also guess my family is not the only family that does pay taxes and still has to live in a fairly tight budget
    You are not. We do, and I know several others. Almost everyone that I know that we are close enough that we know about each others finances makes just enough to not be considered poor and get assistance, but does not make enough that paying $1,000 a month in health insurance or $200 extra a month in taxes is not really a big deal to them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AlyssaEimers View Post
    You are not. We do, and I know several others. Almost everyone that I know that we are close enough that we know about each others finances makes just enough to not be considered poor and get assistance, but does not make enough that paying $1,000 a month in health insurance or $200 extra a month in taxes is not really a big deal to them.

    I'm curious about this Bonita. I know (or thought) that you had posted your husbands income elsewhere. I'm curious why you guys pay federal income taxes ~ do you pay a mortgage? With three kids and mortgage deductions I would think that there is no WAY you would have to pay federal taxes? Now, I'm now tax expert, I just googled and found that, it just doesn't make sense to me that at the income level you had previously mentioned and with three children (and I don't know if you have a mortgage or not) that you would be paying federal income taxes. The numbers below may be off, but in general it just doesn't make sense.

    A married couple with three children and $40,000 in income can take a $9,700 standard deduction and $15,500 in personal exemptions, bringing their taxable income down to $14,800. They would owe $1,505 in taxes.
    But with three children, they would get $3,000 in child credits, leaving them with no taxes owed – and a $1,495 refund check.



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    I will admit to not being the member of our family that pays the bills so I just asked DH. After paying federal income taxes State income taxes (GA), sales tax, and other taxes we pay more in taxes than we got back in a refund.

    ETA - It is not by a lot though.
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