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    To support my shaky view of how far store owners are willing to go to make a buck and how not noble many food stamp users are.



    Peterborough clerk says she was fired over EBT cards | Local News - WMUR Home

    I am not a fan of how our welfare system works. It is used and abused and it also has so many issues. I mean, there are states where if smoke pot, you get extra food stamps - despite the fact that pot was illegal in those states. Wtheck? Or how about. The fact that people still get them when they are dead?

    And why have any rules at all when the EBT can be used to withdraw cash.hmmm.

    Some New Hampshire legislators are currently working to reform the state’s policy on EBT cards to prevent purchase of non-essentials like cigarettes or beer as a result of this incident's coverage. In fact, the EBT cards can be currently used to withdraw cash, and so purchase any good or service available for cash. One suggestion from the New Hampshire House speaker is to stop allowing the EBT cards to be used as cash cards
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    Quote Originally Posted by myyams View Post
    To support my shaky view of how far store owners are willing to go to make a buck and how not noble many food stamp users are.



    Peterborough clerk says she was fired over EBT cards | Local News - WMUR Home
    They were not using food stamps to purchase cigarettes or beer. They were using cash assistance. And of course she should be fired... She is not the law.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mommytoMR.FACE View Post
    They were not using food stamps to purchase cigarettes or beer. They were using cash assistance. And of course she should be fired... She is not the law.
    They might have to fire me too because I probably would not make the transaction either! It is gross and pathetic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by myyams View Post
    If you have to use public money to live, you should not abuse it or slap all tax payers in the face that, "I can buy lotto tickets, red bull, sometimes cigarettes, etc." It is not picking on people. It's not allowing people to abuse the system. I am NOT willingly to happily pay for food for someone while they go gambling. GOOD GOD that is wrong on so many levels.

    I am completely FOR helping people. I am completely AGAINST people abusing the system.

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    However, I can not fathom it being the store owner's job to police anyone ... You all know what's gonna happen, don't you? A poor maybe non white person on welfare wanting to buy some lottos will file a lawsuit for discrimination based on something or another for the store owner denying the right to buy something from the store.

    omg another WTH is wrong people bill. I think the lawmakers have been smoking some of that wacky legal weed while writing up their fantasy czar and bizarre bills.

    Buying one 1 dollar lotto ticket in a month or every few months doesn't seem like a huge gambling problem. Also, it is something like less than 10% of people actually abuse the system. If you know SO MANY abusing the system then I hope, like I always say, that you are reporting them. I also don't think anyone is advocating abusing the system. I for sure am not. But when I think of abusing the system, I don't think of people buying a cupcake or a lotto ticket... I think of people not reporting an extra income, etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by myyams View Post
    They might have to fire me too because I probably would not make the transaction either! It is gross and pathetic.
    Gross and pathetic? That's pretty harsh. I hope you don't work anywhere because I can only imagine the laws you have made up that people should follow or you will not serve them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mommytoMR.FACE View Post
    Buying one 1 dollar lotto ticket in a month or every few months doesn't seem like a huge gambling problem. Also, it is something like less than 10% of people actually abuse the system. If you know SO MANY abusing the system then I hope, like I always say, that you are reporting them. I also don't think anyone is advocating abusing the system. I for sure am not. But when I think of abusing the system, I don't think of people buying a cupcake or a lotto ticket... I think of people not reporting an extra income, etc.
    How do you know it is one dollar or 100? It could be anything. It is the principle that public assistance in any shape should not be used to buy non essential items. I am against that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mommytoMR.FACE View Post
    Gross and pathetic? That's pretty harsh. I hope you don't work anywhere because I can only imagine the laws you have made up that people should follow or you will not serve them.
    I do imagine that lots of people in this country would appreciate their taxes not being used for buying lotto tickets, beer, cigarettes, guns, cars, and the like. I can really see that people like to help and support good causes and how any of the above are not good use of money.

    So Yes I feel it is gross and pathetic to buy those things using public money.
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    I think this is terrible.

    First I'll acknowledge that the whole lottery thing is kind of like preying on classes that are already disadvantaged in some way or another and thats not cool, i don't like that. But the lottery exists so I'm going to treat it like something we accept. If we don't accept it, then it should go away completely.

    So now that aside. This whole thing really bugs me. This is essentially a dictation that those who are poor shall never be allowed to decide that a single lottery ticket once in a while is okay. I think thats totally F'd up. Not because its a lottery ticket, but because of the scenario as a whole. The idea of controlling someones choices to that degree is awful to me. We are essentially saying that the poor should never treat themselves EVER. Not even a single buck on a lottery ticket.

    Let me tell you, if i gave money to the poor directly, i would not be so high and mighty to expect that much control over their situation and to suggest to them that buying a lottery ticket is in appropriate.

    Now buying crap tons of lottery tickets...thats inappropriate but you know what? I have a choice as a person. To be compassionate and give for the right reasons, or to be a control freak and cry foul everytime something doesn't seem fair or right. I'm not cool on taking away the privilege of buying one lottery ticket on occasion from everyone just because there are others that will buy too many.

    We have to decide where we draw the line. I don't think someone being on govt. aid of any sorts gives us the right to control how they spend any money they have. Sure there would be great perks to doing that. You could make sure your as much of your money as possible is not 'misspent'. But what kind of people does that make us?

    I still want the poor in my society to have some sort of autonomy. This is just too far. I'm willing to accept a certain level of regulation on what you can actually buy with the food stamps....less regulation that what some other people want. I am not however keen on regulating what they the poor do with the rest of their money.

    Yes, i say that with the acceptance that some people will make decisions that will make it impossible to better their lives. I'm just so not interested in controlling another individual to that level just because they technically have some of 'my money' too.

    This mentality is really starting to tick me off. That is not what giving, supporting others and caring for the poor is supposed to be about.

    Why is it that if the poor lived in a society where they don't receive any assistance, the theory is we should expect them to behave responsibly and if they don't...sucks to be them they will live a miserable life. But if we provide assistance?? Then all of a sudden we don't want them to act responsibly anymore we just want to make all the decisions for them.

    I want to provide assistance so individuals start having the opportunity to better their lives. If they can't figure out how to make that work, then ultimately that affects them the most. I've done my part...i'm not going to throw some little hissy fit because they didn't use my opportunity the way i wanted them to..and squandered my money.. I want to provide them with opportunity and I will enjoy the fact that some people DO use it properly and remember that THATS why i do it. My life is a crap ton better than theirs and day to day if i looked at my quality of life, i'm not even aware that some people can't do the right thing and that its on my dollar.

    People need to stop being so controlling. Just because you can justify being so controlling for some reasons doesn't mean there aren't others reasons why you shouldn't be.

    Geez I"m wound up tonight. And I'm sorry but this post probably has 90 bajillion typos in it but its way too long for me to re-read right now, my head is pounding and I'm under so much stress these days. I should really go to bed now!

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    In fact, the EBT cards can be currently used to withdraw cash, and so purchase any good or service available for cash.

    Thats only IF you are also getting cash assistance. If you are only getting food stamps you can't withdraw cash.



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    Last edited by Sapphire Sunsets; 01-28-2013 at 12:53 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by myyams View Post
    How do you know it is one dollar or 100? It could be anything. It is the principle that public assistance in any shape should not be used to buy non essential items. I am against that.
    How about the collection plate at church? Coins for the Salvation Army Bell Ringers? Buyng a poppy on Veterans Day? A condom?

    Just trying to figure out what is acceptable and what's not okay to spend a dollar on.
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