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    It just smacks of hypocritical to act like guns are bad and should be banished, while at the same time being surrounded by guns.

    FTR - I am not against some gun regulation. I do however think it was a valid point to be brought up.

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    But I don't want my kids to live like a President's kids do. I don't want my kids to have restrictions on when and where they can go because of idiotic people. I could easily turn it around and say I don't want it to be like Obama's kids. I want my kids to not worry they are going to get hurt at school. I want my kids to go to school without armed guards. Why is that so hard to fathom?

    I think Malia and Sasha need that protection because they are targets and daily. Yes, my kids could get hurt by some loon but the chances to that are slim. They are not in the spotlight nor do I want them to be because I don't want them to have that need to be guarded.

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    Yes, OBama is totally an "Elitist hypocrite" like this ad CALLS HIM for obeying with the same SS protocol that every US president has abided by for the past several generations. Ridiculous and insulting. The NRA really has a lot of gaul referring to our standing president in such a way. Talk about disrespectful and disgusting.

    I'm so glad Chris Christie came out against this ad, calling it "reprehensible". For any normal person to support this sort of hateful nonsense is BS.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jessica80 View Post
    But I don't want my kids to live like a President's kids do. I don't want my kids to have restrictions on when and where they can go because of idiotic people. I could easily turn it around and say I don't want it to be like Obama's kids. I want my kids to not worry they are going to get hurt at school. I want my kids to go to school without armed guards. Why is that so hard to fathom?
    It would be wonderful if no one, including the First Children needed this kind of protection. The fact of the matter is though, that there are millions of guns out there and there is nothing anyone can do to get rid of them all. If someone really wants one they can get one. School will have to up their security if they want to prevent things like this from happening in the future. It can be in combination with background checks and other preventive measures, but the up is security will have to happen as well. It is unfortunate that kids can not go to school and not have to worry about what could happen, but it is not the reality that we live in today.

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    But I don't see it as a constant threat. If my daughter's school got a call that there was someone coming to shoot up the school, yes, I would expect the police to respond. I don't see this as an ongoing threat. No more than I think she can't go on her bus or the van for the chance they are in a bad accident which is highly more likely (and yes it terrifies me). It is scary and it is something that needs to be dealt with but I don't believe that armed guards at all schools is the answer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jessica80 View Post
    But I don't see it as a constant threat. If my daughter's school got a call that there was someone coming to shoot up the school, yes, I would expect the police to respond. I don't see this as an ongoing threat. No more than I think she can't go on her bus or the van for the chance they are in a bad accident which is highly more likely (and yes it terrifies me). It is scary and it is something that needs to be dealt with but I don't believe that armed guards at all schools is the answer.
    Maybe not all schools. Each school should be able to assess what is necessary or not necessary for their district. It is definitely a viable option though and one that is proven to work or high profile people would not do it. I believe it is a MUCH better idea than arming teachers, and a necessity in many schools.

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    Absolutely true and one I believe the POTUS agrees with. He agrees with letting each district figure out. What he is skeptical about is that it is the only solution and I agree.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AlyssaEimers View Post
    It would be wonderful if no one, including the First Children needed this kind of protection. The fact of the matter is though, that there are millions of guns out there and there is nothing anyone can do to get rid of them all. If someone really wants one they can get one. School will have to up their security if they want to prevent things like this from happening in the future. It can be in combination with background checks and other preventive measures, but the up is security will have to happen as well. It is unfortunate that kids can not go to school and not have to worry about what could happen, but it is not the reality that we live in today.
    I think that you view this with the warped and sheltered perspective of someone who not only homeschools, but never ever leaves their children in someone elses care (or at least that is the impression that I've drawn from reading your posts). My kids go to school, camps, childcare at my gym, all sorts of places other than just my living room, so leaving them with others is something that happens on a daily basis. I do not cower in fear every day when I drop them off for their activities at our gym. I don't cry when my son gets on his school bus, or I drop my daughter off at preschool. Statistically they are more likely to die in the car on the way there. I think that I have a pretty sane, normal perspective on all of this.

    Do you cry in fear every time you go to the mall or a home depot or a movie? How about a grocery store or walmart or wherever you shop? Because killings happen there too, would you prefer to see all of those placed turned into armed facilities? The beach? Your local lake? All places where people gather. Should our lifeguards carry loaded weapons?

    I get that the NRA is working very very hard to scare you. To make you wring your hands and believe in the "bad guys" being everywhere and it all being too hopeless and us all being surrounded and the only thing to DO is to arm ourselves to the TEETH! But it just isn't true. Obama is no more a hypocrite in having guns around him than I am in wanting security around the airport my husband is going to be flying out of tonight in CA. I know planes have been a terrorist target. I want extra safety surrounding them. Obama is a target, he needs extra safety. That neither makes me, or Obama, hypocrites!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Potter75 View Post
    I think that you view this with the warped and sheltered perspective of someone who not only homeschools, but never ever leaves their children in someone elses care (or at least that is the impression that I've drawn from reading your posts). My kids go to school, camps, childcare at my gym, all sorts of places other than just my living room, so leaving them with others is something that happens on a daily basis. I do not cower in fear every day when I drop them off for their activities at our gym. I don't cry when my son gets on his school bus, or I drop my daughter off at preschool. Statistically they are more likely to die in the car on the way there. I think that I have a pretty sane, normal perspective on all of this.
    I also think you have a warped and sheltered view of what homeschooling is. It does not mean never taking your kids anywhere or not leaving them with anyone. People that homeschool take their kids all over the place. My not having any kids in Public school has nothing whatsoever to do with my ability to form an opinion on schools. DH works in a public school with over 2,000 students every day. I have nieces and nephews and other children that I care about.

    ETA - I do want to clear this up because I feel that there is a lot of misconception to what homeschooling actually is. My girls have had tons of opportunities this year that they would not have had time for if they were in a traditional school. In a city where homeschooling is very common, there are so many opportunities for homeschoolers. Ton of co-op classes, homeschool groups. Tomorrow my oldest will be in a Homeschool spelling bee with dozens of other Homeschooler. Saturday we are going to the Aquarium and Monday we are going to a larger city 2 hours away to go to their zoo. We have gone to the local zoo at least once a week where there is a class where the zoo keeper teaches in detail about each of the animals. I am sure there are some homeschoolers with are kept bare foot up in the hills, but that is not the norm of what homeschooling is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AlyssaEimers View Post
    I also think you have a warped and sheltered view of what homeschooling is. It does not mean never taking your kids anywhere or not leaving them with anyone. People that homeschool take their kids all over the place. My not having any kids in Public school has nothing whatsoever to do with my ability to form an opinion on schools. DH works in a public school with over 2,000 students every day. I have nieces and nephews and other children that I care about.

    No, I'm going by several of your posts saying that you wish you had opportunities for your children to play with other children and the like. If you leave your children in playgroups or camps or at a gym and I am mistaken I apologize. I thought that you had very recently posted here and elsewhere that you don't get to and wish that you did. Perhaps I'm thinking of someone else.


    You have posted several times now that schools will never be the same, that flying was never the same etc. I just think that you don't have much of a world view to be able to form those opinions. Travel has gone back to being the same for most of us. We don't get on a plane in fear, or looking for scary Muslim men like it felt like we were immediately post 911. And Schools don't feel like the terrifying forever scarred places you keep posting them to be. I've been in my sons school several times since Sandy Hook and it feels pretty much exactly as it did before hand.

    Do you worry every time you get in the car with your children? Because your children are less safe in your car than my children are in their school.

    So while you seem to love to play up how unsafe the schools are, and how worried all of the children and parents ought to be.........I find it annoying of you. They are less safe tooling around in your car.
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